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tod
response 6 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 16:00 UTC 2003

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glenda
response 7 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 17:17 UTC 2003

STeve started out at 13, is now at 16.  He did complain Friday morning that
he was congested for the first time (other than a head cold) since he got the
machine.  He figured that the humidified air at pressure was keeping his
sinuses cleared out.  One of the benefits he likes is that when he needs to
sleep during daylight hours, he can put something over his whole head to block
the light and not feel like he is sufficating.
cmcgee
response 8 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 19:32 UTC 2003

A friend (6'2" 220 lbs) was totally able to control the (very bad) sleep apnea
and snoring by losing 30 lbs.  He hated the CPAP machine, couldn't keep the
mask in a comfortable position.  The "success" % on surgery were too low for
him to even want to consider it.  
jaklumen
response 9 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 01:39 UTC 2003

resp:5 I probably need to change the filter in my cold air 
humidifier.  If I could afford an excellent air purifier, I'd do that, 
too.

resp:6 313.6 lbs.  I weigh in *every* day.  I use a Tanita scale that 
measures fat percentage as well-- as I am on a low-carb eating plan 
that cuts out refined foods, I've dropped about 7 net pounds of fat 
(approx. 44% to 37% composition).  Trust me, I'm working on it.
happyboy
response 10 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 19:14 UTC 2003

how long did it take to lose those pounds with the lo-carb plan?
jaklumen
response 11 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 04:52 UTC 2003

couple weeks.
happyboy
response 12 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 17:35 UTC 2003

did you bolster that with any aerobic activity or are you
waiting to lose more weight first?
polygon
response 13 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 23:03 UTC 2003

My experience is like Todd's: my sleep apnea was cured by surgery.  My
tonsils had always been quite large: just about every doctor who ever
peered into my throat commented on them.  When the tonsils were removed
they turned out to be considerably larger than the surgeon had estimated. 

Because I was such an obvious candidate for surgery, given the size of my
tonsils, I never had to use the CPAP machine even once.

Losing weight has been much easier since the surgery than it was earlier.
jaklumen
response 14 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 03:25 UTC 2003

resp:12 I walked some, mostly 3/4 mi or so 3 to 4 times a week.  The 
hot weather made that really difficult for a little while.  Now that 
the temperatures have really come down, I'd like to step it up some 
more.  It is really, really hard though, because I have an 
overwhelming urge to come home and sleep for 3 hours after work at 
about 1pm or so.  It is really, really frustrating and I am so 
desperate for relief.  But the waiting time for the study is 8 weeks.
beeswing
response 15 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 03:43 UTC 2003

re: 13... Yeah, losing weight was easier 'cause your throat was raw
after the surgery. :)

I had my tonsils out at 27. Mine were making a safe haven for bacteria
and infection, so they'd been poisoning me for who knows how long.
jaklumen
response 16 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 05:03 UTC 2003

*shrug* I guess eating less helps... but I see partially too, that 
what you eat really helps, too.  Hopefully, I will add in more 
vegetables... lots of meat has killed the food budget. 
happyboy
response 17 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 07:55 UTC 2003

tofu is cheap...lowfat cottage cheese.  do you feel more
energized after your walks, even considering the heat?
tod
response 18 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 17:34 UTC 2003

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sabre
response 19 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 02:51 UTC 2003

Aren't you the same joker that called the abortion debate a "dead horse"
Yet here you are with some stupid ass thread about your sleep disorder.
If you would get that fat ass off the couch and do some real work it 
would be easy to get some sleep.

   Every person I know that has this disorder( I know several) are a 
bunch of fat ass pigs. They are disgusting in thier eating habits.
Maybe you can all get together and sue Burger King. McDonalds already 
has a group going after them. Anyone over 250lbs should be forced to 
diet by law.
jaklumen
response 20 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 04:14 UTC 2003

resp:17 I would imagine so.  I haven't learned to cook with tofu yet.  
Yep, cottage cheese.  No, not really too energized.

resp:18 Tuna is good, makes a good salad.

resp:19 You know what... shut your cakehole.  You're talking out of 
your ass and you don't know what you're talking about.  Some of the 
medications I had to take jacked my metabolism, and you're the only 
sorry fucker who's whining a sorry story about how I ain't doing good 
enough.  Well, I'm doing something.  Yeah, so I'm not as active as I 
used to be.  Lots of people aren't.  Go yowl elsewhere.  Oh yeah, 
that's right, I have a filter that I can just actively disregard you 
if I so choose.
gull
response 21 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 13:04 UTC 2003

Re #20: You're only going to encourage him by responding.
tod
response 22 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 18:28 UTC 2003

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flem
response 23 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 18:59 UTC 2003

It's true that weight loss can alleviate sleep apnea symptoms, often to the
point that no treatment is needed.  It's also true that people with sleep
apnea find it much more difficult to lose weight than most people, because
we tend to lack the energy to keep active.  The good news is that this does
improve with treatment.  You get more energy, lose a little weight, your
symptoms reduce, and you get more energy still.  
glenda
response 24 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 20:57 UTC 2003

Damon is 6'8" tall.  At 250 lbs he would be a toothpick.  At 275 lbs he has
a little bit of a pot gut which scares the hell out of me.  When he gets the
pot gut, he is about to shoot up another 2-4 inches.
polytarp
response 25 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 21:15 UTC 2003

I like Chinese dumplings.
tod
response 26 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 23:17 UTC 2003

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polytarp
response 27 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 02:07 UTC 2003

I h8 fags.
goose
response 28 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 02:58 UTC 2003

They hate you.
russ
response 29 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 03:05 UTC 2003

I'm not 250 pounds, but I volunteer to help sit on sabre.  I'll buy
bean burritos for everyone beforehand, too.
jaklumen
response 30 of 48: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 04:42 UTC 2003

resp:23 That's what's been so frustrating-- I've been so tired to keep 
up a regimen-- so at least I do the walking.  Julie suggested that I 
stay active and not sit for very long, so as well as walking at work 
(I usually walk about 3-5 blocks to the city library to pick up the 
batteries for recycling) I get up from my desk about every 15-30 
minutes for some sort of break to fax resumes, take print orders, or 
whatever.  I hope it will work.

Also, I came straight home from work, after I went to the agency to 
send off an application.  Could afford to do the lunch time thing 
again: too many hidden sugars.  So lunch was spinach greens, tuna, 
green olives, and lemon tarragon dressing.  I did go out to dinner 
with my wife and daughter, but there was no dessert and I monitored 
carefully what I was eating: diet pop, salad, the soup had a little 
barley in it... not too many carbs.  The eating plan I follow allows 
carbs for dinner but limits the meal to an hour, but I decided to 
forgo any obvious sugar.

I plan to keep measuring, keep weighing (measure fat more than pound), 
and walk.  The night time ritual will be nasal strips and a 
humidifier.  Hopefully, it will help some until the study.
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