response 56 of 71:

Jan 16 04:02 UTC 2013

I think dissolving Cyberspace Communications, Inc. will pretty much be
the end of Grex, for the reasons I've mentioned previously.  Mergers
tend to result in reducing unneeded resources, including a "declining"
conferencing system.  Something always gets lost in a merger and
especially when the "merger" is a dissolution of one organization.

As to hurting Grex, just talking about dissolving the corporation and
donating its assets gives people the idea we don't want to keep it
going.  And that may quite possibly result in even less donations and
use.

When I ask for ideas it is about how to make Grex a better, more useful
place.  Conferencing is not the be-all end-all of Grex.  So pointing out
it is declining, while it may be true, is not helping.

Grex is used by all sorts of people, many of whom never do any
conferencing.  We still get people asking for validation virtually every
day of the year.  We still get donations.  How long that will continue
if we seriously discuss ending it, I don't know.  But right now, due to
our lower costs of operation, we are covering our costs more or less.

It's good that you don't want to destroy Grex.  The question then is
what can we do to keep it going rather than shut it down?  We have a
very long item full of ideas to pull from.  I've tossed out some ideas
already, too.  They will be incremental, of course, because that's how
Grex works.  We've actually come a long way in the past several years.
We have more work to do.

response 58 of 71:

Jan 17 17:46 UTC 2013

Ye[, after saying you would let me bring it up there when I am ready.  I 
guess I shouldn't be surprised.

You didn't point at this item in your item on M-Net, strangely, so I will 
do that.

response 60 of 71:

Jan 18 02:54 UTC 2013

I tried using the link. Either my 'denise' login id has been deleted or 
I'm not remembering my password correctly. It's been awhile since I've 
been over there so it might have been deleted.

response 62 of 71:

Jan 18 15:44 UTC 2013

My account here on Grex still exists [though I haven't figured out yet 
how to change my password since it was reset recently; I'll do more 
searching about it when I have more time; maybe later today]. It's my M-
Net account I was talking about. Either that account has been reaped or
I  don't recall the password.

response 64 of 71:

Jan 19 05:29 UTC 2013

[I did get that mail from you, Kent. And I responded by saying that I 
don't see [or am not understanding] a prompt or place that gives me an 
option to enter the 'passwd'. With my access here is the web-based 
version of abalone which is menu-driven. I don't know how to access grex
 or mnet in any other way. I realize most people here CAN do stuff like 
this but with exploring around a bit, I haven't figured out how to
change  my password here. At mnet, when I log in and it asks for my
password, I  tried typing passed [and!passwd as well because I read that
one of the  places, the ! is needed] in the password prompt which of
course didn't  work. I don't like being so technically challenged!

I seriously do appreciate everything your doing for Grex, Kent; I know 
your here on a daily basis doing stuff that needs to get done so you 
don't really have time to hand-hold those of us that don't understand 
this stuff.

response 66 of 71:

Jan 19 16:38 UTC 2013

You did reset my password; I just need to change it from the one you
sent  me. I did see the FAQ while looking around last night but haven't
read  much of it yet because it was kind of late when I got home [so I
was  tired]. What I DID read [I think] talked about using the command
line. So  I'll explore this later today. Thanks, Kent.

response 68 of 71:

Jan 27 17:24 UTC 2013

  
unable to access ... both my m-b0x ids have been disabled ... adn hte
url lrequires a login.
  

response 70 of 71:

Jan 27 17:27 UTC 2013

  
ummm:
#59 of 69: by John Ellis Perry Jr. (jep) on Thu, Jan 17, 2013 (13:05):
 The item on M-Net can be reached here:
    http://tinyurl.com/jep-agenda-m-net
  
requires login ...