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Grex > Coop8 > #77: >>> Grex needs to move <<< |  |
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janc
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response 538 of 561:
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Oct 18 15:48 UTC 1996 |
I called them. They'll sell me 1000ft. They don't know anyone who sells
bits and pieces. They suggested calling a phone installer, and seeing if one
might be willing to sell me a slice.
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janc
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response 539 of 561:
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Oct 18 15:52 UTC 1996 |
I called the Recycle Ann Arbor Reuse Center. They apparantly don't do cable.
Purchase radio says they can set me up with somehting for not much more than
$1 a foot. Sounds like they are going to get a bit creative, which may well
be OK. I'll go over there and talk to them some more.
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steve
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response 540 of 561:
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Oct 18 15:54 UTC 1996 |
I have calls into a couple of places for 25 and 50 pr cables. The place
where I used to get phone equipment has gone out of business. Right
now I'm talking to some places in lansing. At worst we'll get it on
Monday.
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scott
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response 541 of 561:
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Oct 18 16:06 UTC 1996 |
Puchase is a pretty good place, if they have it. They'll make a good deal
on it per foot.
Also possible to call a phone installer?
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steve
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response 542 of 561:
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Oct 18 16:29 UTC 1996 |
I have a source for it here in Lansing. It's $.40/ft, which is a good
price. I'm going over there today and check it out and get it, if its the
right stuff (which I'm certain it is). This is Greybar in Lansing.
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janc
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response 543 of 561:
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Oct 18 17:00 UTC 1996 |
Well, I got a 20-pair cable from purchase, though I paid $1.50 a foot for it.
Oh well. Communications out of sync.
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dang
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response 544 of 561:
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Oct 18 17:14 UTC 1996 |
So take one of them back. :)
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janc
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response 545 of 561:
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Oct 18 17:38 UTC 1996 |
25-feet may be a bit hard for people to take back. It's a short length, not
so easy to re-sell.
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tsty
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response 546 of 561:
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Oct 18 19:46 UTC 1996 |
i am a phone installer.
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popcorn
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response 547 of 561:
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Oct 20 03:14 UTC 1996 |
This response has been erased.
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kaplan
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response 548 of 561:
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Oct 22 23:43 UTC 1996 |
So, do we get a report on the move? How long was grex off the net? How long
off the phone? What did it cost? What happened that was surprising?
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janc
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response 549 of 561:
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Oct 23 00:48 UTC 1996 |
No big surprises. As much of the move story as I can remember:
Our dungeon landlord, Nick Contaxes, found the new location for us. His
support for Grex has been wonderful and we owe him a debt. Bill Van Fossen,
the pumpkin landlord, has been very friendly from the first. STeve and
Valerie have been our main contacts with Bill, in negotiating the lease and
making sure that everything was set up before the move. Lease was drafted
by SRW and various board members, and Valerie took care of getting it signed.
STeve, STeve's kids (Stacy and Damon), Valerie, and I hauled a lot of junk
out of the room, cleaned and vacuumed. Kami did some painting (with some help
from Valerie). Valerie and I figured out how to run a new phone cable into
the room. Valerie and Bill checked out the electrical circuits. Bill
replaced the lock. Valerie got duplicates of the key made and distributed
to the staff. STeve spent a lot of time negotiating the new phone connections
with Ameritech, and making sure they were on the ball. He also located a
phone cable. Valerie and I bought supplies for new shelving for the new room.
On Monday morning, I went to the pumpkin and started putting up shelving, with
help from Robh. We spent a lot of time figuring out where the studs were,
but seem to have found them. The Ameritech people showed up right on time
and started the new install.
At the same time, the rest of the gang went to the dungeon: Valerie, STeve,
Ajax, Scg, and Blh (Scott's dad, Ben). I don't know the details (wasn't
there) but they shut Grex down, did some mapping of what cables where plugged
into what, and pulled the whole thing apart, even disassembling the desk
(which was too big to haul up the stairs in one piece). Blh and STeve dragged
the Sun up the stairs and everything was loaded into the back of Blh's truck.
The arrived while Robh and I were finishing the shelving, and started
unloading the truck.
STeve headed straight for the basement to conspire with the Ameritech guys.
He got the cable from them, and with Valerie's help pulled it through from
the phone closet to the pumpkin. Valerie left for an interview. Blh and I
reassembled the desk while Ajax and Robh finished unloading. Blh and I left.
Ajax started putting Grex back together, plugging this into that. STeve
went off seeking cable ties.
When I came back, Robh was just leaving to go to work, and Grex had mostly
been reassembled. STeve left to fetch kids, and Marcus arrived. I mounted
the plywood board with our phone connections on the wall over the trap-door,
and put a hole through the wall for the phone cable. Marcus went to work
plugging more cables together, and bringing Grex up. Gregc arrived and
started hooking up the pumpkin end of the phone cable to Grex's phone block.
He did quite a bit of checking and testing of the phone connections and hooked
up a bunch of extra pairs so adding future lines will be easy. Marcus noticed
that the power conditioner had a T-plug that didn't fit into any wall socket,
so Ajax and I went back to the dungeon to scavenge an appropriate socket from
there. Valerie and STeve found Bill and got him to turn off our circuit
breaker while me, Marcus and Gregc took turns trying to install the new wall
socket. This delayed Bill enough so he had to drive home in the dark in a
car with a broken alternator (so the headlights run off the battery and tend
to get dim). Gregc unplugged some fuses from Bill's car to disable some
battery- draining components, and Marcus and Valerie escorted him home. Scg
and I sawed some shelves for Grex's little closet.
By this time the phone were up and we were able to bring Grex up. The
instant Scg put it on the net, we were socked with hundreds of sendmails,
as every computer in the world that wanted to send mail to Grex simultaneously
discovered that we were back on the net. This was expected, of course, and
we left the system up for several hours before we let any users log in, so
the mail could catch up. We hung around as people gathered and then went
off to Cottage Inn for lunch, leaving Robh behind to open Grex to the users
when the sendmail flood had calmed down. Vanessa, and the rest of the Andre
family joined us for dinner.
Scg, Valerie and I returned to the pumpkin after dinner. Robh phoned from
work immediately to tell us that many of the modems didn't seem to be
answering. Marcus had earlier expressed some doubts about whether the ALM
card had been hooked up correctly. Valerie discovered that at least one
modem was plugged into the wrong slot, and Scg discovered that at least
some of the phone cables were plugged into the modem's PHONE plugs instead
of the LINE plugs. We disconnected the modems and redid all the wiring.
None of us had brought a laptop with a modem, so Scg called Shepard and
asked him to try dialing into each modem in turn. They all worked.
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kaplan
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response 550 of 561:
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Oct 23 04:55 UTC 1996 |
Thanks for the details, janc. Almost feels like I was there!
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robh
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response 551 of 561:
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Oct 23 05:38 UTC 1996 |
(Minor correction - I went home for a nap in the afternoon, not to work.
I went to work in the evening, after opening Grex up and turning the
modems on. I did not go to work twice that day. >8)
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scg
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response 552 of 561:
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Oct 23 06:45 UTC 1996 |
I spent some time doing stuff in the Pumpkin tonight. It's actually a
very pleasant place to sit and work on stuff. It certainly isn't the
dark cramped space that the Dungeon was.
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ajax
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response 553 of 561:
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Oct 23 15:45 UTC 1996 |
Smells better, too, if you like perfume :-).
Some critically important details Jan left out were the delicious
danishes and homemade chocolate chip cookies, I think from John
Remmers and Valerie, respectively.
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janc
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response 554 of 561:
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Oct 23 21:21 UTC 1996 |
How did I forget the food? I think I may have forgotten John Remmers
entirely in the previous account, though I know he was there. It the kind
of deal where everyone pitches in and does what looks like needs doing and
consults with whoever is handy if they aren't sure what to do. Hard to keep
track of who is doing what where. Chelsea dropped by to offer to fetch food,
and Dadroc wandered through at some point too.
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kami
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response 555 of 561:
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Oct 24 05:42 UTC 1996 |
Hey! Thanks for the details. I'm glad people like the painting. It was
fun. I've been off for a few days, and it's wonderful to come back and find
everything running so smoothly.
Popcorn, would Monday do to pick up paint and things, or would you like to
drop them off here at your convenience?
Oh- TS did a bit of painting, too.
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tsty
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response 556 of 561:
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Nov 2 09:14 UTC 1996 |
thankxx kami.
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dang
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response 557 of 561:
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Nov 2 21:50 UTC 1996 |
Items 1, 3, and 4 from the move cf linked to storage 61 - 63 at the request
of scott.
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scott
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response 558 of 561:
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Nov 3 00:14 UTC 1996 |
Thanks, Dan. The "move" conference is going to be nuked soon, since it has
served its purpose.
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ewhisam
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response 559 of 561:
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Nov 3 00:28 UTC 1996 |
Did we move??? Are we in??? Is GREX warm now???? What happened??? we went down
and I lost my Mahasashabida Vishnu Revolving Mantra file!!! ArrrgggggHHH!
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scott
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response 560 of 561:
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Nov 3 13:25 UTC 1996 |
Yup, Grex is safely located in a new home with high ceilings, better
management, decent parking, and better cooling!
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tsty
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response 561 of 561:
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Nov 6 20:05 UTC 1996 |
and the move.cf has been nuked, never to be needed again, mehopes.
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