response 53 of 127:

Jun 12 06:15 UTC 2000

  I like frisbees. Greek logo in the center and cyberspace.org around the
logo. No one throws frisbees away. Just my 2 cents.

  There is a diner that gives all thier kids meals in frisbees. It has
a logo and a slogan that says "Have a Diner Day" along with thier URL.
 http://www.redarrowdiner.com

response 55 of 127:

Jun 12 20:30 UTC 2000

  I'd think twice about giving away promotional frisbees (or "flying discs",
  as they're supposed to be called, lest we invoke the wrath of the trademark
  holder..)

  I remember the ACM SIGGRAPH '87 conference in Atlanta.  "Flying discs"
  were one of the fashionable promotional trinkets that year, and several
  of the companies who were exhibiting at the show were giving them away.
  Several also had hospitality suites at the fancy hotel nearest the
  convention center, which happened to be the Marriott Marquis.  The dominant
  architectural feature of the Marriott Marquis is a large central atrium
  which rises all the way to the top of the hotel -- more than ten stories
  I think..  You can imagine that the hotel management was not happy with
  companies that served wine and beer to their guests and then turned the
  slightly tipsy computer programmers out into the hundred-foot-high atrium
  with a plentiful supply of cheap promotional frisbees.  More than a few
  plummetted to the lobby, seemingly at or near terminal frisbee velocity,
  and a big stink was made as buzz-killing hotel employees were instructed
  to seize any frisbees spotted from the computer geeks, who naturally
  became indignant..

  Anyways, my point is that frisbees aren't necessarily the best thing to
  distribute at a high-spirited, high-density gathering like Top of the Park.
  It's substantially harder to commit accidental mayhem with a refrigerator
  magnet, and they're probably a lot more affordable, too..  Put me down for
  $20 if the magnet plan ever gets to the production stage.

response 57 of 127:

Jun 12 22:02 UTC 2000

I'll pledge $20 to the magnet plan also.

response 59 of 127:

Jun 14 00:45 UTC 2000

I will raise my pledge to $100; this brings us to $160.  I was talking with 
hhsrat in party, and we may decide to work together to try to pull this off.

janc:  if I'm the coordinator on this, I will be sure that everyone who 
kicks in money gets a couple of magnets off the top of the pile.
 
Joe Gelinas in resp:11 ::  who & where are American Signs?  I'm familiar
with  Sawicki and Sons.

other: what is the approximate capacity of Top of the Park?  And, will 
TOP management be OK with us handing out magnets?

Finally, will there be 2-3 volunteers to be sure the magnets are actually
distributed at TOP on July 9?  I cannot be there that night.  Two years ago, 
the bank magnets I mentioned in resp:0 were being handed out at the top of
the  main entrance ramp from Fletcher Street.

response 61 of 127:

Jun 14 02:35 UTC 2000

Polygon sent me some information about Sawicki magnet prices.  
They are higher; I think two-color is right out.  Also their normal flow-time
is two weeks, and we are now pushing that.   I would have to pick up the 
magnets from Sawicki no later than July 3.

Polygon wrote:  -------

Three sizes: 2x2, 1x3, and 2x3.5 (inches).  All
magnets are bordered in white -- chose any standard imprint color.
Normal production 2 weeks.

           2x2     1x3     2x3.5    Extra Color, Add
   250    $145    $145     $155      $100
   500     180     180      195       115
 1,000     235     235      275       145
 2,500     335     335      525       190
 5,000     550     550      850       250
10,000     800     800    1,400       300

Alternatively, 2x3.5 in limited colors (black, red, green, yellow, blue),
again with white border.

              1-Color   2-Color
    250         135       210
    500         175       275
  1,000         245       370
  2,500         475       635
  5,000         750       975
 10,000       1,200     1,550

response 63 of 127:

Jun 14 02:44 UTC 2000

  I'm planning on being at TOP so I probably can help out. I will advise
if things change. I'll een wear my Grex shirt for added effect.

response 65 of 127:

Jun 14 05:17 UTC 2000

American Signs is on the north side of Washtenaw, between MichCon and
K-Mart.  I always miss it and have to turn around and go back.  Their lawn
signs prices weren't much different from Sawicki's, but American Signs
isn't a union shop.

Fax won't work?  I haven't looked at my calendar, but I could probably
make an excuse to drive into Detroit.  I'm also willing to make the run
in to pick up the finished product.

response 67 of 127:

Jun 15 00:52 UTC 2000

Is there any discount for a non-profit org?

response 69 of 127:

Jun 15 03:05 UTC 2000

(They're not charities, though.)  I'll pledge $20 toward the magnet project.

response 71 of 127:

Jun 15 20:47 UTC 2000

American Signs thinks they can turn around our order in a week.
They are getting back to me with pricing information.

response 73 of 127:

Jun 16 16:32 UTC 2000

Steve and I visited American Sign this morning.  Their price is 75 cents
each for 1000 magnets, which is three times Sawicki's price and far more
than we have money for.  So they are out.  Steve is going to investigate
maybe a schedule with Sawicki where he would pick the magnets up after
I've left town, and we're going to try to look at other sources.

response 75 of 127:

Jun 16 17:49 UTC 2000

I'll donate $20 for magnet capital.