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Grex > Oldcoop > #205: Member proposal to not use Picospan on NextGrex | |
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richard
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response 50 of 105:
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Oct 24 04:28 UTC 2004 |
the question is whether it should be a staff decision when the time comes to
get rid of picospan, or whether it should be a member decision. I think that
given how long grex has used picospan, it should not be a staff decision alone
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naftee
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response 51 of 105:
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Oct 24 05:54 UTC 2004 |
It's been proven that the staff can't control their own actions when it comes
to the text the members write; so how are we supposed to trust them with the
SOFTWARE that the USerS usE to WRITE the text; in the 1ere; 1st place ?
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janc
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response 52 of 105:
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Oct 24 15:16 UTC 2004 |
Because you are already trusting staff with the software the users
use to write the text. Picospan and Backtalk are both written by
Grex staff members.
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naftee
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response 53 of 105:
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Oct 24 18:12 UTC 2004 |
nonononon, janc. PICOspan, although it was written by a GreX staffer long
since lapsed, has been tried and true; and therefore trusted. However,
fronttalk has not gone through such rigorous testing; and we cannot be sure
that it may find the need to delete text that certain users write. How
often, janc, have you left your computer running to go get your daily cup of
Earl Grey tea with lemon, with the potential fact that Valerie might just be
tempted to inset some code on her own? Frankly, albaugh (esq.) has not
foundthe need to be concerned about such matters, but the rest of the GreX
public MUST make a decision for themselves, and this item is where it's at.
Please let the word bespoken.
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mfp
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response 54 of 105:
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Oct 24 18:35 UTC 2004 |
I think Jan should stop drinking Earl grey tea wtih lemon.
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albaugh
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response 55 of 105:
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Oct 24 21:15 UTC 2004 |
Until/unless someone answers my inquiry of how Picospan would be retired in
absense of a member vote, I'm pressing forward with this proposal.
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naftee
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response 56 of 105:
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Oct 24 23:04 UTC 2004 |
Not according to janc's website, you aren't. The matter has been decided for
you.
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janc
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response 57 of 105:
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Oct 25 00:13 UTC 2004 |
I prefer my Earl Grey with with dose of gasoline, preferably lead-free. I
ignite it just before drinking. Clears the sinuses. It's great. Trust me.
And if you don't trust me, then who you gonna trust?
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mfp
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response 58 of 105:
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Oct 25 01:46 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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gelinas
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response 59 of 105:
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Oct 25 02:44 UTC 2004 |
I'm not sure I understand your comment in #55, Kevin. What, exactly are
you looking for?
Personally, I'd prefer a general concensus, preferably expressed by
measured diminishing use, that it were time to move away from picospan.
I fully expect such concensus to be reached, and implemented, in the
first eighteen months after the migration to the new machine.
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naftee
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response 60 of 105:
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Oct 25 05:19 UTC 2004 |
re 57 It's VALERIE that I don't trust, jan; your dear wife.
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tod
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response 61 of 105:
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Oct 25 05:24 UTC 2004 |
I say go with the open source stuff with the most support since staff support
is obviously the biggest hinge around here on the old stuff.
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naftee
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response 62 of 105:
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Oct 25 05:31 UTC 2004 |
Does russ cage fit into the Old Stuff category ?
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tod
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response 63 of 105:
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Oct 25 05:33 UTC 2004 |
!telnet grease.cyberspace.org
Trying 216.93.104.38 ...
Connected to grease.cyberspace.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
OpenBSD/i386 (grex.cyberspace.org) (ttyp2)
User not authenticated. Using plaintext username and password
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naftee
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response 64 of 105:
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Oct 25 05:38 UTC 2004 |
grease it up
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janc
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response 65 of 105:
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Oct 25 14:45 UTC 2004 |
The "grease" name is actually a leftover from the previous machine that
used that IP address. We had another sun set up as a clone of Grex to
do software development on for a while. It was called "grease". That
machine died years ago and nobody cared enough to fix it. NextGrex
inherited it's IP address, and thus the name too. I guess it's not
wholely inappropriate.
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albaugh
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response 66 of 105:
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Oct 25 17:29 UTC 2004 |
Updated proposal wording:
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Regarding the NextGrex (OpenBSD) text-based conferencing software:
Picospan will be phased out and made unavailable as soon as practical.
Fronttalk will be used instead, already having the functionality and
"look and feel" of Picospan, but also with the ability to be extended
to provide new functionality in the future.
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And if it wouldn't be seen as overly prescriptive, I could add the following:
To aid in the rapid transition to Fronttalk, the new default conferencing
shell will become Fronttalk, and using the "bbs" command will cause
Fronttalk to be invoked.
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naftee
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response 67 of 105:
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Oct 25 17:29 UTC 2004 |
What's wrong with NextGreX.cyberspace.org ?
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naftee
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response 68 of 105:
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Oct 25 17:29 UTC 2004 |
SLIP
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mfp
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response 69 of 105:
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Oct 25 17:56 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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gelinas
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response 70 of 105:
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Oct 25 19:30 UTC 2004 |
Nothing, really, but traditionally, our machines have been given names that
begin with "g".
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mfp
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response 71 of 105:
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Oct 25 19:47 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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naftee
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response 72 of 105:
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Oct 25 20:04 UTC 2004 |
How about grease.nextgrex.cyberspace.org ?
There's just no Point in calling it NextGreX if it's really called "Grease"
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mfp
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response 73 of 105:
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Oct 25 20:06 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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keesan
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response 74 of 105:
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Oct 25 23:24 UTC 2004 |
The old interface to bbs would be picospan?
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