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krj
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response 50 of 170:
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Dec 10 16:40 UTC 1991 |
Even if you have the Globestyle tape, I'm not sure that it's as good as
the CD. I think only the UK CD contains the tracks from the "Shouffi
Rhirou" ep which was released at the same time as the LP.
(*sigh*)
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mew
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response 51 of 170:
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Dec 10 17:28 UTC 1991 |
Ooh! WOnder if I can still pick up Basket Of Light? I've been trying to
avoid Tower. I know it is a money trap. sigh. I HATE budgets. wah.
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mythago
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response 52 of 170:
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Dec 10 22:13 UTC 1991 |
If Schoolkids wanted my business, they should have quit being assholes about
getting imports a long time ago.
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bad
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response 53 of 170:
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Dec 10 23:33 UTC 1991 |
I waited them out on one disk - a Genesis CD/EP sort of a thing. Came out
at $18.99, about four years ago, and sat there and sat there.
Finally they knocked it down to $7, and I bought it.
(yeah, yeah, non-Genesis fans can keep their comments to themselves.)
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mcnally
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response 54 of 170:
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Dec 11 06:19 UTC 1991 |
re #50: Well, the cassette has a number more songs than the U.S. CD,
and "Shouffi Rhirou" is one of them..
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krj
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response 55 of 170:
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Dec 11 07:20 UTC 1991 |
If you want, Mary Ellen, I'll drop by and pick it up for you.
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krj
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response 56 of 170:
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Dec 11 09:35 UTC 1991 |
#53 -- this markdown was recently? Schoolkids has recently marked down much
of their non-moving import stock. The staff tells me that in the future,
imports will be filed with the rest of the US-produced rock-pop albums.
Speaking of imports, I'm intensely curious as to the legality of that
$8 cutout bin in Tower. Much of what was in there is by artists under
US contracts, the very definition of the now-forbidden parallel imports.
To pick one example, a US major (capitol?) just issued the Cocteau Twins
back catalog here; I'm sure they'd be less than thrilled to see genuine
4AD Cocteau CDs selling in large quantity at reduced prices.
To Laurel: how likely is it that I'd find a CD shopping trip to Windsor
worthwhile? I've been told that I should check out a store called Doctor
Disc, on Oullette. Are there lots of UK imports available in Windsor?
(The parallel import rules don't apply to Canada, and US citizens can
bring in copies for their own use, at least for non-bootleg discs.)
Have you noticed how the stock of Canadian folk is? (Dare I hope for a
Natalie MacMaster CD?)
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mythago
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response 57 of 170:
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Dec 11 14:03 UTC 1991 |
Doctor Disk is fairly decent, from what I've heard. I've had much
better luck finding UK and European imports over there; a friend of
mine picked up a +used+ copy of Coil's THE SNOW EP long before it was
released into this country. I haven't looked at the folk sections.
CDs are, unfortunately, a LOT more expensive over there--but the import
prices seem to be no higher than their normal CD prices, which are about
$20 Canadian.
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tcc
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response 58 of 170:
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Dec 14 06:35 UTC 1991 |
I found a *12 inch* version of Laurie Anderson's 'Oh Superman' -- with graphics
on cover, words, dedications, etc. at Dr. Disk. Evidently the brits liked
that one piece so much that she released it overseas as an EP. Go figure.
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morel
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response 59 of 170:
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Dec 14 19:25 UTC 1991 |
(I have a 12 in 45rpm version of that, released by Warner Bros in the US)
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krj
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response 60 of 170:
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Dec 17 07:40 UTC 1991 |
I recall that being a widely-available single around the time BIG SCIENCE
was released. (I just had a flashback to an old East Lansing record store,
sigh...)
Re: the Taj Mahal import I mentioned in #41 -- Elderly Instruments had it
for $2 cheaper than Tower, $4 cheaper than Schoolkids. Serves me right...
Does anyone read Billboard regularly? There was a Usenet report today that
"last week's" Billboard had an article on the industry tearing its hair out
over the success of the used CD business. Off to the library, I guess.
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mcnally
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response 61 of 170:
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Dec 17 11:56 UTC 1991 |
Yeah, I saw that reference, too, and wondered what the article had to
say..
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hawkeye
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response 62 of 170:
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Dec 17 15:21 UTC 1991 |
Hopefully, they would respond by lowering all new CD prices so that
retailers could sell them for $10 per disc maximum. Cheapest prices for
new releases that I can find (for "big" releases like the new U2 and
Guns and Roses) are around $12 now. That's too high.
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krj
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response 63 of 170:
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Dec 18 08:35 UTC 1991 |
I did a little research today. The article on the used CD menace (at least
as perceived by CD retailers) is the lead article in the December 7
issue of BILLBOARD. I won't key in the whole thing. The article and its
sidebar stress the number of promotional items finding their way into the
used market; consumers selling their own discs are only mentioned in
passing.
There's a lot of controversy over Sony Music's no-return policy.
Sony claims that they have put a stop to the practice of stores buying
used CDs from consumers and returning them to the manufacturer for full
credit; I find it hard to believe that this practice is very widespread.
Others say that Sony's no-return policy means that the non-defective
discs which would formerly be returned are now being sold as used.
Tower says that if the labels are not going to "combat" used CD sales,
then they will move into the field; Tower is already testing used CD
marketing in two California stores.
Some quotes: Joe Bressi, Camelot Music, Ohio: "'Young people, priced out
of the market', are susceptible to used CDs and trade-ins, and smaller
stores will turn to the used business to survive in the tough economic
climate, he says."
Don Rosenberg, the Record Exchange, NC: "The used-CD business is wonderful.
It is a very good way for the retailer getting squeezed from all sides to
make a little extra money.... If the record labels priced CDs inexpensively
to begin with and gave the retailer a little profit, then the retailers
wouldn't have to cut corners and sell used CDs."
And I know you'll love this last one, from Lou Mann of Capitol Records:
"The fact that used CDs do exist, that an aftermarket does exist, lowers
the perceived value of a CD. That is why we should all be concerned about
it... We have built up the value of the CD for years in consumers' minds...
I would hate to see that good work eroded because of the used-CD store."
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mcnally
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response 64 of 170:
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Dec 18 09:15 UTC 1991 |
What complete crap.. (the Lou Mann quote..)
Makes you wonder how much Sony now regrets producing a format that
(with proper care) doesn't degrade every time you play it.. (of course
there are always those nasty oxidation rumors..)
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bad
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response 65 of 170:
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Dec 18 13:25 UTC 1991 |
Yeah...it's a whole different thing buying used. If it ain't scratched,
it's generally good as new...I never trusted used records...
Plus, of course, they have a much longer selling lifetime...
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mythago
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response 66 of 170:
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Dec 18 20:32 UTC 1991 |
So much for "planned obsolescence" in music.
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mcnally
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response 67 of 170:
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Dec 19 10:09 UTC 1991 |
Instead they'll just start making the music so bad that you can only
stand to listen to it for a few years..
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tcc
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response 68 of 170:
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Dec 23 09:16 UTC 1991 |
Uhh... Magnivox created CD technology.
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mcnally
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response 69 of 170:
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Dec 23 10:50 UTC 1991 |
Actually Sony and Philips were both involved in developing the
technology involved and I'm pretty sure that Sony was the corporation
that wound up defining the standard for the 5" CD we have now.
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goose
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response 70 of 170:
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Dec 24 05:16 UTC 1991 |
Phillips (Magnavox in the U.S.) was very instrumental in the development
of the CD-5. But as Mike stated, Sony was involved too, later on I believe.
Sony took the CD where it is today.
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ragnar
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response 71 of 170:
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Dec 25 04:24 UTC 1991 |
Yes, possibly the only format success Sony will have in the US in this century
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ragnar
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response 72 of 170:
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Dec 25 04:27 UTC 1991 |
Son'y has usually had the better format and stil lost, a real shame. Beta and
8-mm (8mm video keeps a small following due to near-pro quality) video, and now
the DAT looks to be leapfrogged commercially by Phillips new Digital Compact
Cassette. (Has Sony been involved in TV broadcast standards? I mean both
in older days and with the new HDTV systems.)
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krj
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response 73 of 170:
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Dec 26 05:03 UTC 1991 |
8mm video has only a small following? I thought it was doing quite well
in the camcorder market; the alternatives are bulky VHS recorders, or
VHS-C mini camcorders with short tape times.
My guess is that both DCC and DAT will kill each other off in the market;
neither offers a substantial advance over the analog cassette for the
standard tone-deaf consumer, and faced with market confusion many buyers
will just sit on their hands. (The recession doesn't bode well for anyone
offering a new recording system right now, either. There are few purchases
more deferable than an expensive new digital tape recorder.)
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bad
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response 74 of 170:
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Dec 26 06:46 UTC 1991 |
8mm is alive and well.
I have a question as to DAT and the like...
Isn't Hi-Fi VHS a digital recording medium?
And if so, why spend more than the price of a good Hi-Fi VCR on a DAT deck?
And there are no copying restrictions.
Or is Hi-Fi short somehow?
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