response 51 of 139:

Jul 17 02:54 UTC 1997

re #44 ... majority of panic lasted untio 3a, when i got a call (now
*THAT'S* what i call service!!)
  
cal from utah - 1) either the hd is sanrfed tot he max, or, 2) you can
clena all the header pin and connector connectins and power connector and 
'wipe the contacts' with 91% isopropal and prya alot.
  
about 9am, the b0x found the hd. 
  
lots of grexer sightings... for later. 
  
still didn't sleep very much - no b0x and only a 'chance' ain't sleep fodder.
  
i really coulda used a soft shoulder last night - i'm tired of panic
fixes on shit, even if it does work after i dick with it. 

tired...gong to sleep - come vistit me at ritz camersa, state st. 
popcorn, janc, dadroc, srw, sobo adn other s dropped by.
  
custonm photogrpahic art fair t-shierts.. and for the test *i* wore
a grex t! 
  

response 53 of 139:

Jul 17 13:23 UTC 1997

Congrats on the repair TS!! :)

response 55 of 139:

Jul 18 11:15 UTC 1997

As is clear from the preceding, I spotted TS at the Art Fair.
(By the way, it wasn't my first viewing of the Grex logo, just
my first one on a t-shirt.)

response 59 of 139:

Jul 21 17:26 UTC 1997

Speaking of such things, has Grex ceased seeing download loading time as
"idle"?  I don't download from Grex often, but now, with my disk drive
problems, I don't have much of a choice.

response 61 of 139:

Jul 21 19:40 UTC 1997

(Didn't say quite what I meant to in #60...)

Re #58: There would be technical problems with implementing that
concept. The party program can tell whether someone is "idle in
party" or not, but can't tell whether the person is actually
doing something elsewhere on Grex. So you wouldn't want the
party program booting people off Grex just because they're idle
in party.

On the other hand, the system-wide idle timer can't easily tell 
whether someone in party is active or not, because it can't
distinguish between the different party participants.

So the two-stage process of "first boot someone from party, then
boot them from Grex if they don't do anything else for a while"
seems to be about the best that can easily be done.

response 65 of 139:

Jul 22 22:23 UTC 1997

That was a hung connection of some sort, not a living, breathing user.

There is also an idle timeout built into (at least some of) the modems.  If
you dial in on those, that will boot you off after 20 idle minutes.  It works
much better than the idle daemon, since it is much better able to tell if you
are really idle or not.  However, it doesn't work on telnet lines.

response 67 of 139:

Jul 23 06:10 UTC 1997

I have drawn some new 3-D buttons for the pistachio interface of 
backtalk. I just changed the default buttons to the new 3D green 
buttons. They are also available in a few other colors, but not too 
many, yet. I'll take requests for new color schemes, though.

I have replaced the buttonmenu for FWs, so that if you want to change 
the button style, you now get your choice of colors in the new style. 
The old style buttons are still being served, but they have been removed 
from the menu available to FWs, mostly because the new ones are better 
on they were interim buttons anyway.

response 69 of 139:

Jul 28 02:39 UTC 1997

No, John, not any more than in our discussions earlier elsewhere, where we
decided that this would be nice. Implementation of that would go mostly into
the pistachio interface, rather than the backtalk engine.