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Grex > Helpers > #138: Grex System Problems - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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gelinas
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response 50 of 870:
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Dec 30 03:18 UTC 2004 |
Non-members can ftp in, they just can't ftp out.
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albaugh
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response 51 of 870:
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Dec 30 04:22 UTC 2004 |
OK, something that either I had set or grex had set was not maintained during
the nextgrex migration: I have always been able to count on a new login
prompt being issued when I did exit from sh. Now my connection is dropped.
What setting do I need under nextgrex to maintain the old behavior?
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tsty
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response 52 of 870:
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Dec 30 05:14 UTC 2004 |
this b0xen is snappy!! kewlness!
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keesan
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response 53 of 870:
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Dec 30 05:39 UTC 2004 |
Regarding kermit, I can send and receive files when dialed into grex using
kermit to dial. I was going to try telnetting from grex to sdf using kermit
telnet but sdf is not answering. When I got the phenomenon of kermit
appearing to send but nothing arriving (sending from grex to sdf account) was
when I telnetted using the non-kermit telnet program, which even on old grex
did not allow me to send files via kermit but on the old grex did not appear
to be sending, just timed out. Is this a newer version of kermit? If so I
might want to report this as a bug to the kermit people. How do I determine
the version?
I think I tested kermit send/receive on NextGrex earlier, having telnetted
to NextGrex from OldGrex using kermit telnet, and it worked.
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keesan
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response 54 of 870:
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Dec 30 05:45 UTC 2004 |
I am seeing an awful lot of items in conferences other than agora as new.
The first few I looked at seemed to contain responses from me. Is there some
general fix for this problem? I have been doing fixseen at each conference
(it is nearly instant on this new grex).
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keesan
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response 55 of 870:
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Dec 30 05:46 UTC 2004 |
The items show up as 'brand new items'.
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keesan
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response 56 of 870:
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Dec 30 06:08 UTC 2004 |
I can telnet to sdf.lonestar.org or m-net.arbornet.org using the plain telnet
program but I CANNOT telnet with kermit - No route to host, every time. I
was using kermit telnet on the old grex. So this is two things odd about the
new kermit - is it one that was precompiled for OpenBSD? If so I will report
it to the kermit support group.
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cross
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response 57 of 870:
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Dec 30 06:20 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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mcnally
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response 58 of 870:
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Dec 30 06:40 UTC 2004 |
Once most of the major transition issues are straightened out, can
spamassassin (or a similar tool) be made available to users who wish
to invoke it via procmail?
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charcat
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response 59 of 870:
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Dec 30 09:27 UTC 2004 |
my grex mail dosn't seem to be working properly, I can send mail out but
when I e-mail myself from my other address, nothing shows up.
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dpc
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response 60 of 870:
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Dec 30 15:55 UTC 2004 |
hThe shell problem I reported is fixed. Thanks! However, backspaces
still show up as ^H. Plus, the "byte abcd" problem with the pager
is still there. I think thes e two problems need global fixes.
Looks like good progress so far on this big transition, though! 8-)
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gull
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response 61 of 870:
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Dec 30 16:11 UTC 2004 |
Re resp:45: Try WinSCP3. I like it a lot.
Re resp:51: It was just explained a few responses up that that was an
unusual behavior of old Grex that confused a lot of people. It's
unlikely to be duplicated on new Grex.
If you explain why you want to log out and then immediately log in
again, maybe we can suggest an alternative way to accomplish the same thing.
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keesan
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response 62 of 870:
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Dec 30 16:23 UTC 2004 |
Why I want to logout and login: to check Jim's mail without a second phone
call. Jim also helps out a few people with using grex and sometimes has to
go into their accounts to fix things. If I make a change to .cshrc or .login
and I cannot remember how to get this change to take effect without logging
out and in again (such as experimenting with ^H and backspace to try to help
someone else with that problem).
Charcat, can you mail yourself from within grex? Do you want me to try
mailing you? Do you want to try mailing me from your other address?
Why I use Kermit to telnet: I have an account at sdf.lonestar.org (which used
to be a lot faster than grex and it has links2 and grex did not, and it has
the latest lynx 2.8.5, and I have 100MB storage space and a website with
photos) and I can use kermit to telnet there and do file transfers over the
same connection, rather than having to exit kermit to do ftp, also one level
of membership there allows kermit file transfer but not ftp (the $1
membership). Could the same group with outbound ftp have outbound kermit
please? Also I can print my mail on my printer if I am dialed into grex with
kermit (or telnetted with kermit to grex) and then telnetted from grex to sdf
with kermit, but not with regular telnet.
But I think charcat's mail problem should be fixed first, and the ^H
backspace.
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blaise
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response 63 of 870:
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Dec 30 16:29 UTC 2004 |
Offhand, a good way to get the old behavior would be to use "exec login"
in place of "logout".
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gull
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response 64 of 870:
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Dec 30 16:29 UTC 2004 |
Re resp:62: If all you want to do is rerun your .login, use the command
'source .login'.
If you want to log in as someone else, type 'login' and you'll get a new
login prompt. Note that this opens a subshell; when you type 'exit',
you'll be back in your own account, so don't just turn the computer over
to them and leave. ;)
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remmers
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response 65 of 870:
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Dec 30 16:44 UTC 2004 |
Or you could type 'exec login' if you don't want to open a subshell.
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keesan
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response 66 of 870:
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Dec 30 16:44 UTC 2004 |
Thanks, I will try all of the above ways to re-login.
I just looked at .login and I find /usr/ucb on the path and also
erase '^?' and tset in there. Could the script that fixes .login's remove
/usr/ucb from the path? I don't know why someone is having trouble with
backspace but that appears to be set in .login too. Changing the ? to H might
fix the problem for those who have the problem. My backspace works fine.
For some reason I have erase '^H' followed by erase '^?'. I can erase what
I am typing here with Ctrl-H but not Ctrl-?. Can someone explain?
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keesan
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response 67 of 870:
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Dec 30 16:52 UTC 2004 |
I tried the following to login to Jim's account and get back to mine:
1. login then logout > NO CARRIER
2. exec login then exit > NO CARRIER
3. login then exit > NO CARRIER
exit appears to invoke logout. Luckily we now have unlimited phone service.
Did I miss anyone's suggestion of how to get out of Jim's account but stay
connected?
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cross
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response 68 of 870:
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Dec 30 16:53 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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keesan
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response 69 of 870:
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Dec 30 17:24 UTC 2004 |
ssh jdeigert@localhost asked me a question which I had to answer with yes
and then it added jdeigert to some list and let me into his account. I could
exit with 'exit' and not get disconnected. Thanks. I will make an alias to
save typing this out.
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keesan
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response 70 of 870:
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Dec 30 17:35 UTC 2004 |
A lot of brand new items showed up in other conferences and I could type
fixseen to put them back to used items except in 'homme', where I could
neither fixseen nor read them but was told 'bad item file header'.
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blaise
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response 71 of 870:
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Dec 30 17:48 UTC 2004 |
I had forgotten that you are using csh, where login is a builtin. Try
"exec /usr/bin/login" -- that should log you off and let someone else
log in. Note that once they have logged in, they will have to do the
same to let another person log in; if the next person to log in uses
logout/exit, then it will disconnect.
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kentn
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response 72 of 870:
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Dec 30 18:02 UTC 2004 |
Putting literal ANSI escape codes in picospan rsep/isep/ishort (via
.cfonce) doesn't work for changing colors in bbs any longer. All I get
are the raw codes. My terminal can show colors just fine otherwise.
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cross
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response 73 of 870:
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Dec 30 18:14 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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kentn
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response 74 of 870:
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Dec 30 18:17 UTC 2004 |
I was running 'bbs' however 'ft' exhibits the same behavior.
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