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rcurl
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response 50 of 119:
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Jan 30 17:34 UTC 2007 |
This is all a reality show, right?
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keesan
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response 51 of 119:
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Jan 30 17:56 UTC 2007 |
So when do we collect the prize? It is far too real.
I can celebrate by playing my piano at 3 pm, Bach Partita No 2.
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tod
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response 52 of 119:
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Jan 30 20:13 UTC 2007 |
Sounds like she didn't want to sign the monthly lease for a non-smoking
apartment. Bravo!
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keesan
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response 53 of 119:
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Jan 31 00:36 UTC 2007 |
Nobody signs leases for these apartments and apparently nobody but me even
pays security deposits. The landlord could not give us the times to be out
of my apartment for the next two days, or the date that she will be out, so
Jim will resume working on smoke blocking and security measures at 7 am.
Today we filed a police report about Sunday morning's pounding on the door
and person coming into the kitchen and walking out again. Apparently the
police were called out at the time by the neighbor (they have a report for
that time and this place) who objected to Jim stapling weatherstripping in
the basement two stories below her. He came up when he heard pounding and
yelling on the door and assumed it was her usual crazy behavior and then that
stopped and he heard footsteps in the kitchen in back. The patrolman will
ask the previous patrolman about what happened and if it was the police who
came in without knocking and without announcing themselves. Since the
landlord asked us to file the report I left him a message with the report
number.
A neighbor wonders why there was a police car here again today. He has been
hearing stories about me trying to drive the neighbor out of her apartment
with noise. We are explaining to neighbors what is going on.
The patrolman asked if it could have been the maintenance person. Jim said
'I AM the maintenance person and was working here at the time the landlord
asked me to' (in the morning instead of the afternoon).
'A couple of days' sounds a lot like 'it's almost certain she'll be gone by
spring'. Jim asked when the front hall door lock would be changed.
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keesan
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response 54 of 119:
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Jan 31 14:21 UTC 2007 |
8:30 phone call (very polite) from the neighbor who said the landlord said
to leave me her schedule in writing for the next two days when she would be
working 12 hour shifts and it was near the front door because she did not want
to go near the back door (I bet the police contacted her yesterday about
that) and she was about to hang up when I insisted on knowing when she was
moving. Saturday, to the apartment next door, because her therapist told her
it was bad for her carpal tunnel syndrome to be carrying groceries up the
steps and she should be on the first floor..... She called back asking where
she could get moving boxes. (Kiwanis). I called the neighbor upstairs next
door who had heard nothing about this so we are assuming it is the other next
door house which is currently being fixed up for sale (as apartments) by my
same landlord. So I phoned and left him a big thank you but Jim will not be
out-of-the-ordinary quiet for the next two days without something in writing
from her, or verbally from the landlord, giving him a day and time when he
can change the front door lock to the shared hallway. I am trying to track
down the repairman now.
It should be very quiet in the house next door with nobody else there, unless
someone wants to continue working on the remodel of the other apartment.
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slynne
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response 55 of 119:
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Jan 31 18:38 UTC 2007 |
http://www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/base/news-
21/117017177559530.xml&coll=2&thispage=1
http://tinyurl.com/2fvz2c
This article made me think of this item :)
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keesan
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response 56 of 119:
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Jan 31 21:19 UTC 2007 |
Do you want to summarize for those of us dialed into grex directly via DOS?
I found a message on the answering machine here after not finding a note, and
it could possibly be interpreted to mean she left her sleeping schedule poked
into the door between the front hall and my apartment, which I have not used
for many months and have sealed off with weatherstripping and caulk.
Today we are using the apartment normally (listening to radio, playing piano
that cannot be heard out the window, talking, walking around) but not working
on weatherstripping. The smoke can only be smelled at the top of the basement
steps and that door has to be pulled hard to shut.
The landlord has not answered my phone messages.
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slynne
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response 57 of 119:
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Jan 31 21:21 UTC 2007 |
Love thy neighbor? Many don't, according to police
Tuesday, January 30, 2007
Of all the things I'd miss about my house if I moved, one thing tops
the list: No neighbor problems.
I may not have a media center or a swimming pool. But no neighbor keeps
a barking dog tied up in the yard. Nobody wakes me up with his music at
2 a.m. every morning, or leaves nasty little notes on my front door
about unclipped hedges. Nobody has threatened to poison my cat. And
there's no mean old man two doors down with nothing better to do than
put his nose where it doesn't belong.
Not long ago, an Ann Arbor man called police to say his neighbor's dog
was pooping on his lawn, but the neighbor denied it.
So the man asked the Ann Arbor Police Department to run a DNA test. On
dog doo.
Request denied.
"This ain't 'CSI,''' said Lt. Mike Logghe of the AAPD.
If you've ever taken a look at a police department's daily log, you've
seen for yourself how many times police are called out to handle
neighbor disputes.
"We get these kinds of calls all the time,'' Logghe said. "All the
time. Obviously, when you have people living in very close proximity,
sometimes you have some situations that lead to at the very least hard
feelings. And sometimes crimes against each other. But a lot of times
the problems aren't a crime. They're more of a nuisance.''
Sometimes the solution is as simple as pointing out a city ordinance.
Otherwise, officers will mediate as best they can and try to come up
with some ground rules that both parties can live with.
Sometimes the problem leads to a lawsuit, which is how it sometimes
ends up at the Dispute Resolution Center, a nonprofit center in Ann
Arbor.
Serving Washtenaw and Livingston county residents on a sliding scale
basis beginning at $25 per session, mediators help settle all kinds of
disputes, including those ugly ones between neighbors.
Most often, the problem involves such things as noise, children playing
in the driveway, even the smell of a neighbor's barbecue, which was at
the center of a recent case.
"They come to the table and talk about how they can live their lives
with some consideration of their neighbor,'' said Belinda Dulin,
director of mediator services.
One woman was angry because the neighbor kids played basketball in
their driveway at night. She wanted them to stop by 8 p.m. The mother
thought that was unfair. They were kids, after all. The situation was
resolved when the family agreed to move nighttime activities to the
opposite side of the house and set its own curfew.
Mediation typically takes two or three hours, and begins with opening
statements from both parties. Then they brainstorm, evaluate options,
and choose one. Then they put it in writing as a contract between the
parties, who typically end the session on much better terms than when
they started.
Dulin said feuding neighbors could follow these same techniques on
their own.
"A person should ask the other party if they want to talk about it one-
on-one, and develop an environment where they can talk about the
problem and not yell at each other,'' she said. "I would suggest they
be open-minded to the many different possible solutions there could be
to resolve that problem.''
And if they're stuck, they should find a neutral third party to help.
Those who want to prevent these life-sucking neighbor problems need to
be reasonable, she said.
"We live in a society where conflicts are common,'' she said. "You
might have a conflict. But that doesn't mean you can't find a
solution.''
The Dispute Resolution Center can be reached at 734-222-3745. Jo Mathis
can be reached at jmathis@annarbornews.com or 734-994-6849.
The absence of these problems may not add to my property value. But too
many people know firsthand how neighbor disputes can make an otherwise
peaceful existence rather hellish.
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tod
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response 58 of 119:
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Feb 1 01:53 UTC 2007 |
I would have loved to see the Dispute Resolution Center handle the John Favara
and John Gotti dispute. *snort*
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keesan
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response 59 of 119:
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Feb 1 06:14 UTC 2007 |
Difficult to talk about problems with someone whose standard responses is to
scream abuse. The neighbor across the street showed us the same newspaper
article. He has been watching police cars stop at my place and the one next
door for a couple of years, for various reasons. Asked what it was about this
time.
I got one call and two messages from the upstairs neighbor today about her
leaving a note 'in your door, not in back' but I did not find anything near
my mailbox or front door. Maybe she left it in the front hall, which I have
been telling everyone I stopped using nearly a year ago because we have sealed
off my door to keep out the smoke.
Tomorrow at 10 am the landlord and repairman will meet with Jim to discuss
security and what he has done.
Jim wonders what the upstairs neighbor thought about his carrying a few
lengths of 6" ductwork (round) into the back yard, after he had spent a few
days puttering around in the basement banging on things, and whether that
might have affected her decision to move. The ductwork is from a neighbor
and is headed to the new house for use in ventilation.
Jim told the landlord that if the neighbor wanted it quiet for a couple of
days she should give the landlord her schedule and he should pass it along
to Jim. She said he said to give me her schedule (which she may think she
has done). I would not be surprised if she is trying to sleep at 10 am
tomorrow when the three of them are touring the apartment and basement and
checking out the ductwork.
Jim says the landlord cannot object to him plastering a lot of holes and
cracks, when my lease says not to make holes in the walls. He has been trying
to seal a wall which is probably full of smoke from leaky ductwork.
Eventually the plaster (drywall compound) should be painted. He even repaired
gouges in the door so it would seal better.
I need to be up and headed to my apartment in less than 8 hours. Some day
this will end. I hope you are all enjoying the details.
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slynne
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response 60 of 119:
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Feb 1 13:19 UTC 2007 |
Indeed. Neighbor fueds are always interesting.
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keesan
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response 61 of 119:
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Feb 1 19:03 UTC 2007 |
Jim woke up at 4 and came over to guard my place at around 5:00 and I joined
him at around 9:00. The neighbor has been tromping around since about 10:00
(after asking me in a phone message to be very quiet until 1:00 pm. THe
landlord has not showed up and it is 2:00. He was due between 10 and 12, and
he does not answer his phone. Jim says we will stay until we have to leave.
He is giving blood at 5:00, the 57th day after the last time. He has to wait
56 days but yesterday there was a 1 1/2 hour wait so today made an
appointment. He is wondering if his blood pressure will be up over the usual
105/60.
Jim has continued with security measures. He showed me all the places he
plastered or puttied. It smells much better here now than 2 weeks ago bu is
rather dim with all the shades drawn and I am getting tired of listening to
talk radio. He says without the radio on people can here conversations
between apartments.
We still have Mary's two sticks of incense. Jim has asked if it is okay to
burn them upstairs to see if the smell comes through, but we would probably
wait for upstairs to be vacant (if this is really going to happen).
Jim is improvising lunch out of what he found in the cupboard. He emptied
and turned off my refrigerator so it could dry out and get cleaned while I
was not living here, but now we are an occupying force and getting hungry.
Breakfast was vegetarian pita wraps on vegetarian bagel and lunch will involve
a can of tomato sauce and grapefruit juice.
Time to call the patrolman who was here Sunday to ask if he found out who came
into my kitchen - the previous police officer or the neighbor.
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keesan
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response 62 of 119:
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Feb 2 00:32 UTC 2007 |
Jim found that one big crack in the central hallway wall had come unplastered
(the plaster cracked again) and when he opened it up smoke poured out, so the
walls are definitely full of smoke. So I left and on the way out ran into
the repairman, who is painting next door, and said the landlord was there too
and was expecting me to phone before he came. I was expecting him to come
over. We could not phone because he was not home and the phone just rang.
The upstairs neighbor will be moving into that apartment some time over the
next week or so. Jim offered to rekey the lock here as late as Tuesday. That
apartment is downstairs from someone who gets up at 4 and goes to bed at 8
and is half-deaf and watches a lot of TV. I can hear her TV in the summer
with my windows shut. Should be an interesting combination. There wont' be
a smoke problem because the ductwork for upstairs is in the attic there.
ALl four of us had a long and rather loud conversation in my living room at
one of the times the neighbor upstairs said she was going to be sleeping but
we had heard her walking around from 10 to 2 after saying she would sleep from
9 to 1. The landlord asked Jim not to hammer during her sleeping hours. I
told him her real hours have nothing to do with the message she left on my
machine (and obviously nothing to do with what she told him either). Jim got
two free tubes of caulk and continued with the plastering and aired the place
out. The door and window are open again with a fan blowing out so I can use
the computer briefly.
We have to play this day by day. Jim is going to occupy the place until I
can move back in, including all night. He will be sure to close all doors
firmly when he gets up to use the bathroom at night (which probably is
irrelevant for someone who is up all night anyway).
Jim said he would rekey the front door for free as late as Tuesday. The
landlord said he would do it after that. I might be moving back in after a
week or two. They will also paint the upstairs, replace the four different
patterns of bathroom linoleum (with metal strips in between them, and some
of that is even in bad condition) with one matching sheet and maybe even fix
a few sash cords, in the hopes of getting a reasonable tenant next time. I
suggested another kitchen cabinet rather than just the sink cabinet.
Jim is thinking of postponing his flight to Ireland from Wed until whenever
I can move back in here with the door rekeyed. It could cost us $500 or more.
Better than me paying two more months rent for a place I can't use.
The police officer is off duty until Saturday so we can't ask who walked into
my kitchen and pounded on my door.
I have a 40 degree house to escape to. I rigged up a computer but the two
modems I brought over did not work - one took all the phones off the hook but
was found as a modem on com2. The other (same model and jumpers) was not
recognized at all but the phones still work. So I am back typing in a cool
breeze while Jim microwaves potatoes for supper.
If we can seal off the walls well enough here I won't be bothered by the
painting upstairs in February. Latex paint stinks for 30 days.
The furnace seems to be running only about half as much now that Jim
reconnected the two ends of the separated duct, and plugged large holes in
the other ducts. It was running all the time when it was 40 out.
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tod
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response 63 of 119:
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Feb 2 02:06 UTC 2007 |
Jim is thinking of postponing his flight to Ireland from Wed until whenever
I can move back in here with the door rekeyed. It could cost us $500 or
more.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to rekey the door with your own locksmith?
I see no sense in Jim postponing if you can just get it over with. I think
a locksmith may charge $30-50 for one door.
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keesan
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response 64 of 119:
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Feb 2 02:17 UTC 2007 |
We cannot rekey the door until the neighbor is gone. We are hoping it will
be Saturday or at least Monday. He does not want to leave me alone here
unless the neighbor has moved. I think she sleeps Monday during the day so
perhaps she will move before then. I will be cleaning up here for a few days
including vacuuming. Jim has been prying off the quarter round from
baseboards to plaster behind it and needs to nail it back on later. Or maybe
just caulk it in place.
I have been hearing noises sort of like dragging furniture upstairs since 8
pm, which is when she supposedly started her shift. Encouraging. Jim is
still refusing to believe anything she says.
Jim can take the cylinder out of the door and leave it off to be rekeyed
Monday and pick it up after my doctor's appointment. (Then we could celebrate
- I bought two bags of half-price bittersweet chocolate chips to get sick on).
That would leave a whole day to pack him and finish putting software on a
friend's computer and turn off the drippy kitchen sink faucet at his place.
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keesan
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response 65 of 119:
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Feb 2 03:26 UTC 2007 |
Breaking news. At 9:30 am someone started rapping on the door from the front
hall to my apartment so we ignored it. It turned into pounding and we were
about to phone the police when it moved to the back door and it was the
police. She said both neighbors had complained of banging noises. Our radio
level was acceptable, she said. She was told the noises stopped before she
came. We assured her we had not made any noises louder than closing the door
to the basement (which Jim demonstrated) which she said was okay. While we
were talking we heard several loud banging noises coming from the upstairs
stairway and front hall, due to the neighbor tromping up and down letting the
door slam, which she had been doing a lot of all evening. The police heard
them too. Jim went and explained that the neighbor keeps harassing us this
way (twice in six days now) and we had filed a complaint about someone walking
into my kitchen on Sunday.
My guess is that the neighbor deliberately kept slamming her door and the
neighbors next door reported that. It was not clear whether both people
called or one corroborated. The police went away without having heard
anything but door closing or slamming noises. I told them we turn off the
radio at 10 pm. I don't know how many more times she can get away with this
but I hope it ends Saturday. I expect a couple of new feuds next door.
There is plaster dust all over the place and sweeping just spreads it so
tomorrow I will be vacuuming. I don't know of any rules against doing that
particularly from 7 am to 10 pm. The place is pretty dusty in general since
I have not been there much for a week so it might take a few days to clean
it before I move back in. Monday?
I am typing at 40 degrees again, using an external modem. Nice clean air.
Jim is the sole occupying force. I hope he gets a bit of sleep. He is a
heavy sleeper but it is hard to sleep through the usual front door slamming
and other noises from upstairs. Perhaps I should report them?
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keesan
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response 66 of 119:
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Feb 2 15:27 UTC 2007 |
Jim was unable to get back to sleep after the police woke him at 9:30 (with
a complaint about banging a few minutes before 9:30) so worked some more on
the plaster. He heard TV and walking noises upstairs at 2, 4, and 6 am. He
biked back to his house to check the mail and found a message from yesterday
mid-day from the neighbor apologizing if she made noise late the previous
night (we will never know since we were not here) and to know what time I
retire (I never attempt to sleep here because of noise from the kitchen above,
and doors slamming when she goes in and out at all hours). The announement
on Jim's phone said we don't often check messages there.
There are no TV noises or walking noises this morning. After breakfast Jim
will fetch the shop vac to vacuum up the plaster dust.
This neighbor still does not believe I don't use the door to the front hall,
or that I do not sleep here. If I used the front door, believe me, she would
know it. The front doors are solid and make a lot of noise when the door
closers slam them.
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tod
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response 67 of 119:
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Feb 2 20:25 UTC 2007 |
That's why I like owning a house. We can bang all night and nobody has to
hear it besides the kid and my mother-in-law. ;)
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keesan
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response 68 of 119:
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Feb 2 21:57 UTC 2007 |
This morning I thought Jim was listening to an unusual radio station in the
kitchen, but at normal volume. Turns out it was the next door neighbors'
radio. So we asked the police to clarify what acceptable radio volume is,
and the two men who showed up were the ones who were here Sunday morning.
They did not come into my kitchen uninvited Sunday so it must have been the
upstairs neighbor. They were sympathetic and good listeners and said noise
was 100 decibels at the property line (which I think is only for outdoor
garden equipment noise, not indoor noise) and there was no problem if people
played the radio that loud. For some reason the radio went much softer
shortly after they left.
The police have now been called Sunday, Tuesday (to report Sunday), Thursday,
and Friday of this week. And twice before this. Sunday and Thursday the
reports were of noises that had 'stopped just before they called'.
I played an entire book of Bach Preludes and Fugues on the piano.
The upstairs neighbor has been going up and down the stairs a lot today.
I emptied one bookcase into three milk crates (vacuuming the books as I went,
first time I vacuumed anything in a year because I had been avoiding making
noise in the daytime until now and boy is it dusty in here). Jim moved the
bookcase and is going to plaster this corner, which is over the furnace room,
which smells like smoke. First he repaired the vacuum cleaner. The wall also
needs vacuuming badly. Brooms and feather dusters are not adequate.
I was in favor of ignoring the next-door radio, and letting the upstairs
neighbor listen to it through her floor. Those neighbors sometimes play their
radio so loud you can hear it loudly through the two stairway walls.
Should I report the upstairs neighbor's junk car which is under a few inches
of snow out in front if she calls the police about imaginary noises again?
Jim let these latest police know he had been asleep for half an hour when the
police woke him up to investigate the 'noise' that had just stopped before
she called. They asked how long I had been here. 22 years if you include
next door, same landlord. They said this was a lucky landlord and he should
appreciate having a 20 year tenant. Nobody had reported us making any noise
this whole time. (I reported one next door neighbor who was fixing his car
a few feet from my window at 3 am and was impolite when I phoned him about
it asking him not to play his car radio full blast while doing his late night
repairs. I did not report his marijuana patch in the back yard).
Caulk caulk caulk. Plaster plaster plaster.
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cmcgee
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response 69 of 119:
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Feb 2 23:00 UTC 2007 |
Sindi, you are documenting activities that demostrate that your complaints
are based on who violates the ordinances. It is probably not smart ignore
the offenses of one neighbor and minutely report the offenses of the other
neighbor. Leaves you really open to a harrassment charge.
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keesan
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response 70 of 119:
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Feb 2 23:31 UTC 2007 |
We tried to file a harassment charge against the upstairs neighbor who has
reported us four times for noise that happened 'before she called', one time
of which was while Jim was asleep. We have not actually reported anyone's
noise to the police, we just asked them to come out and clarify what the rules
were. They only talked to us today. We did report someone trespassing Sunday
(on Tuesday, after talking to the landlord who asked us to do that).
Jim said the police today asked Jim if he was snoring yesterday. But it was
'banging' that was reported, which 'stopped just before she called' but which
we hered the whole time the police were here last night, from the upstairs
stairway and front door.
I have not reported the continued door slamming all day today, and nobody has
reported my Bach Preludes or my vacuuming of the bookshelf.
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tod
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response 71 of 119:
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Feb 2 23:40 UTC 2007 |
I hope Cindy or Jim are providing refreshments for the cops who are leafing
through their notebooks on that neighborhood alone.
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keesan
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response 72 of 119:
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Feb 3 00:04 UTC 2007 |
We are offering to let them come in and warm up but we don't have much food
here at the moment, having turned off the refrigerator for a while as part
of the cleaning cycle after taking the food to Jim's house.
I have started mopping up some of the plaster dust but need to vacuum more,
a year's worth of dust.
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keesan
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response 73 of 119:
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Feb 3 15:52 UTC 2007 |
Jim stayed at my apartment last night. He slept from 10:30 to 3:30 and was
then kept awake by lots of tromping around and other noises from upstairs.
At 5:30 he got to listen to a jazz station from next door, and then at 6:00
it was quiet again, and at 6:30 more tromping and when I came back at about
9:00 the front doors were wide open and there were boxes piled up on the porch
of the house next door. The tromping continues.
Jim biked to his house to put out a few things for freecycle and brought back
a foil covered plate of 'roadkill' (some frozen lettuce and sliced eggs).
We plugged the refrigerator back in.
Jim left a message with the landlord asking him to talk to the neighbors in
the apartment next door explaining that any noise here last Sunday morning
and since then was Jim working on the house at the landlord's request,
specifically to work Sunday morning before 2 pm because the upstairs neighbor
wanted to sleep at 2 pm. If we don't hear from the landlord by 2 pm today
he will call the police officer who he reported the trespassing to, let him
know it was not the police, and have him talk to the next-door-apt neighbors
and explain the problem to them.
Mobile lock services charge $84 to rekey a lock plus $2/key.
Stadium Hardware charges 94 cents per key ($1 with tax) and $2.50 for the
rekeying if you bring in cylinder and key. They are open Sat to 8:30 and Sun
11-5:00. Schlenker's used to do this. I told Stadium Hardware they were
wonderful!!!!! Also thanked the most recent police for being good listeners.
More news after 2 pm. My CT scan was normal. Jim still needs to pack for
Ireland before Wednesday.
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keesan
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response 74 of 119:
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Feb 3 21:13 UTC 2007 |
We went off to the 'new' house to figure out how to keep it above freezing
(7 double fluorescent fixtures = 640 watts, we will try that first) and do
a bit of recycling and came back and found the upstairs-next-door neighbor
moving cat litter upstairs here (making her the to-be-upstairs neighbor here)
and the former-upstairs-neighbor-here moving things to the house next door.
She said she would move to the first floor there and the other neighbor was
in theory living upstairs (but had taken over the downstairs too). The
to-be-upstairs neighbor does not smoke and is walking around very quietly.
She is not talking to us today so Jim' won't offer to set up her computer,
fax, phone and broadband again like he did next door. She is not talking to
the still-next-door-in-back neighbors, who are talking to us and came to
apologize for forgetting to buy us juice at the supermarket. The police came
around 2:30 and said the currently-next-door-apt neighbors had not been
hearing any noises here. The night Jim got woken at 9:30 pm the police
officer said two apartments had reported 'banging noises'. I can't imagine
who else the upstairs neighbor got to call - she must have faked calling from
two places somehow.
This would make a good cartoon.
I looked up Halidol, one of the drugs the formerly-upstairs-neighbor told me
answering machine I should be taking, and it is an antipsychotic drug. One
side effect is low blood pressure (hypotension). The landlord said she was
in the hospital for two days with blood pressure problems. Her third time
this year to be in the hospital for drug-related problems. I then read a bit
about what it means to be psychotic. Psychotic people don't have a lot of
friends. The new neighbor had two friends helping her move.
We have turned my refrigerator back on and need to retape the plastic storm
windows. The new neighbor was not paying heat next door because not only were
there no storm windows but there were 1" gaps around the windows. So it will
cost her a bit more here but be much more comfortable. Same for us, since
we can keep the windows closed. THe upstairs furnace was running 90% of the
time at 40deg out, and now it is only on about half the time and it is much
colder out. Jim reconnected the two ends of one run and plugged 3 large and
a lot of smaller holes. He also patched the basement broken windows.
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