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slynne
response 50 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 19:35 UTC 2002

I dont know. Of course every movie has *something* different about it 
otherwise, they would be the same movie. But a lot of movies have a 
similar feel to them - Raiders of the Lost Ark, ET, Jaws, Poltergeist, 
Jurassic Park,etc. But then he pulls something like The Color Purple or 
Schindler's List out of his hat and they are very different kinds of 
films. 
md
response 51 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 21:36 UTC 2002

[psst...just agree with her]  

Why yes, that wasn't standard Spielberg fare at *all*.
mynxcat
response 52 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 21:45 UTC 2002

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slynne
response 53 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 21:51 UTC 2002

Anyhow, I cant really comment about this recent movie as I havent seen 
it yet. I am just saying tht Schindler's List was enough different from 
other Speilberg movies that if someone hadnt told me he directed it, I 
wouldnt have known. 
mcnally
response 54 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 00:36 UTC 2002

  If I hadn't seen his name in the credits I don't think it would have
  occurred to me that Spielberg was the director..
richard
response 55 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 04:04 UTC 2002

THE PIANIST--  Saw this today, it is the new Roman Polanski film about the
real life experiences of a jewish classical pianist named Wladyslaw
Szpilman, and how he survived the horrors of Warsaw ghetto in World War
II.  He struggles through unimagineable horrors to stay alive.  His family
and everything he owns are taken away, and the only thing he has left are
his memories and the thing most important in his life, his music and
ability to play the piano.  There are some really moving scenes in this as
we watch Szpilman go from famous, and fairly conceited, concert pianist to
an emaciated shell of a man.  Who loses everything.  But his ability to
play.  Which is his soul and his identity.  The title character is played
by Adrien Brody, in a wonderful performance worthy of award consideration.
The film's depiction of the horrors of the holocaust and the destruction
of Warsaw are really something.  This is one of Polanski's best ever
pictures and one of the best in the growing catalogue of holocaust movies.
"The Pianist" won the grand prize at Cannes last year, and the NY Times
review said it is better than Schindler's List.  I don't agree with that
necessarily, but I think its just as good.  And that is pretty high
praise.  

Go see Roman Polanski's "The Pianist", a great movie.
other
response 56 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 04:31 UTC 2002

If he's the guy who made "Bitter Moon" then you might have to drag me 
into the cinema to get me to see it.
richard
response 57 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 07:02 UTC 2002

re: #56...Polanski was the director of Bitter Moon.  Hey not everyone is
perfect.  But he was also the director of Chinatown, considered one of the
great american movies ever made, and other classics like Rosemary's Baby and
Tess.  
bru
response 58 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 15:19 UTC 2002

I don't support roman polanski.  He is a child abuser, sexual predator.
md
response 59 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 16:04 UTC 2002

Beethoven was an anti-semite, Brahms was a woman-hater, Lewis Carroll 
adored little girls, and John Updike is a Republican.  So the fuck what?
jmsaul
response 60 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 16:06 UTC 2002

And Bruce is a moralizing right-winger.  I still read his posts.
other
response 61 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 18:07 UTC 2002

They're all dead.  They can be great artists with human lfaws only after 
they can no longer redeem their flaws. ;)
other
response 62 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 18:08 UTC 2002

s/lfaws/flaws
rcurl
response 63 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 18:15 UTC 2002

Besides, there is an enormous difference between admiring a person and
admiring their art. Only the likes of Stalin and others of his ilk
made a connection between the two. 
jep
response 64 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 19:17 UTC 2002

re #63: Nonsense.  Many people make connections between the artist as a 
person, and the artist's art.  You don't have to be a Stalin to dislike 
Roman Polanski (and refuse to watch his movies) based on his 
pederasty.  If I were choosing between two movies, and knew one was by 
Polanski, I would choose the other one.  I don't owe Polanski 
anything.  Decent humanity doesn't owe him anything.
slynne
response 65 of 327: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 19:37 UTC 2002

Hey, we all make choices based on whatever is important to us. There is 
nothing wrong with making a choice not to see a movie because one has a 
problem with the morals of the director. It is only when people try to 
take the choice away from other people (by banning the movie or 
something) when there is a problem. 

Now me, I probably will skip any Polanski films I come across because I 
think he doesnt always make good movies. I'll only see one of his films 
if it gets really good reviews. 
krj
response 66 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 02:05 UTC 2003

Way back to mynxcat in resp:44 ::  "Catch Me If You Can" is a visit to 
Spielberg's lighter side, which I'm not sure we've seen since "Always,"
his film about forest firefighters and life after death.  The other 
Spielberg film in that style is "Sugarland Express."
 
(I've missed the last six Spielberg films after seeing everything 
he made since 1974, but we did see "Catch" this weekend.)
rcurl
response 67 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 06:53 UTC 2003

Re #64: really? It would never occur to me to do that. Why do you even
have to know anything at all about the artist to enjoy his/her work? Are
you consistent in your bigotry? That is, do you look every
artist/director/writer/cartoonist/etc up to make sure their morals fit
your standards before attending/seeing/reading their work? I would say
that you are depriving yourself of much very enjoyable experience in the
arts by limiting yourself so severly. 

senna
response 68 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 07:08 UTC 2003

Er, um, interesting.
jmsaul
response 69 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 07:56 UTC 2003

Re #66:  Lighter side?  Abagnale's home life is depressing as hell.
anderyn
response 70 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 18:22 UTC 2003

I don't have to agree with an artist to like or dislike her work. But I can
make a choice about someone I do know I agree/disagree with based upon that,
if I want to. I know that there's a writer who's just made a big stir upon
the internet who has just lost my possible buying of her book (reviews made
it sound intriguing, but too expensive for an impulse buy, but I was going
to buy it in paperback, but she decided to make a big stink about a review
and go after the reviewer and say that "readers cant' review books" in
essence) because of her stance. 
snowth
response 71 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 18:58 UTC 2003

Also went and saw Adaptation this week, after much "are we going? Are we going
_now_? Can we please leave already!" 

I swear it breaks every law of good writing, and even breaks most of the for
good film writing. The first half is more or less PAINFUL to watch, the second
half is just rediculous. The movie is absolutely _facinating_, but... 

When I get old and become a writing professor so that stupid undergrads can
attempt to take my job away from me, I'm going to recommend this movie. "Here
is everything you shouldn't do with a script, and I don't want to see it
unless you can do it better than he did". 

It's not a good movie, but it's definately Interesting.
tpryan
response 72 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 21:53 UTC 2003

re 6 How do you demoralize an Orc?  It would seem that moralizing
them would not make them want to fight, which seems to be their
first nature.
remmers
response 73 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 23:28 UTC 2003

Saw "Catch Me If You Can" today.  Most enjoyable Spielberg I've seen
in some time.  Continuously entertaining, with lots of deft, clever
touches, and a nice 60s period feel (even the titles).

Re #71:  By the time you're an old writing professor, "Adaptation"
will be an enshrined classic.  And anyway, you'll have tenure, so
your students can't take your job away from you.  Worst that can
happen is that they'll become your colleagues and you won't be
able to order them around anymore.  (This has happened to me...)
rcurl
response 74 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 00:51 UTC 2003

Went to see Lord of the Rings: Two Towers. It is a combination of Star
Trek and a Mel Gibson thriller: the aliens are still all humanoid. The
best moment for me was when the Orcs were seiging the keep and the Elves
were ready with bows drawn, and the chief Elf yelled "FIRE": I chuckled
for the test of the film. There will probably be a Sequal and a Prequal. 

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