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happyboy
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response 50 of 112:
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Feb 20 18:05 UTC 2006 |
hi naftee!
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naftee
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response 51 of 112:
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Feb 20 18:34 UTC 2006 |
:)
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richard
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response 52 of 112:
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Feb 20 19:53 UTC 2006 |
re #44, she has now retracted earlier statements that she wasn't
hotdogging. She admits now that she was "styling", attempting a
particular style move, in an attempt to add a flourish to her finish.
Snowboarding, like skateboarding, has a number of participants who
dislike the competition part of it. When snowboarding was first made
part of the olympics, some top snowboarders refused to compete in it.
These are people who would probably applaud her trying to cut a fancy
style move at the end of a race where style doesn't count. Because
they see it as ALL about style, and don't care about winning or
losing.
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happyboy
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response 53 of 112:
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Feb 20 23:11 UTC 2006 |
ok...she was exuberant. you know...like a 20 something
kid who cut her teeth in some punker skatepark.
again, dickiebird, what medals have you won?
put up or shut up.
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richard
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response 54 of 112:
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Feb 20 23:27 UTC 2006 |
happyboy you can criticize someone for blowing a gold medal without
having won a gold medal, don't be ridiculous.
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edina
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response 55 of 112:
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Feb 20 23:54 UTC 2006 |
Oh, I'm with happyboy on this one....I refuse to criticize someone who is
doing something on an international stage that not only can I not do, I have
not tried.
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furs
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response 56 of 112:
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Feb 21 01:08 UTC 2006 |
I mean, yeah, she made a dumb mistake, but my God, the world isn't
falling apart because of it. She did win a silver medal after all,
who cares that it's not gold. I think the media needs to back off of
her. She's only 20, and I know people who are twice her age who have
made much worse mistakes.
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cyklone
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response 57 of 112:
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Feb 21 03:57 UTC 2006 |
What if it was Le Bron James blowing a show-off dunk at the end a game and
costing the US basketball gold?
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nharmon
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response 58 of 112:
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Feb 21 04:00 UTC 2006 |
Is snowboarding a team sport?
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cyklone
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response 59 of 112:
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Feb 21 04:06 UTC 2006 |
So you think it's OK for an individual to hot dog and risk their own medal,
but it's not OK for a player on a team? Aren't they all presumably playing
for their country?
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rcurl
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response 60 of 112:
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Feb 21 06:21 UTC 2006 |
She made a "mistake" only in the minds of those that think winning is
everything. However the fact that she shed tears afterwards suggests that to
her winning was indeed *something*.
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happyboy
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response 61 of 112:
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Feb 21 09:27 UTC 2006 |
re57: i would laugh. a whole bunch. i was sort of rootin for
the japanese girl ennyhoo. now THAT wudda been punk rock.
richard...take some snowboarding lessons upstate or better yet
go to the nearest skatepark in your 'hood and thrash it out with
a crew of preteen skaters and get back to me then. i mean,
after you get out of the hospital.
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nharmon
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response 62 of 112:
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Feb 21 14:30 UTC 2006 |
> So you think it's OK for an individual to hot dog and risk their own
> medal, but it's not OK for a player on a team?
Yes, that is exactly what I think.
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jadecat
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response 63 of 112:
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Feb 21 14:37 UTC 2006 |
I would agree. If one person hot dogs and loses in an individual sport-
they're the only one who doesn't get the gold. In a team sport if one
person does the same thing than the entire team loses out on the gold.
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nharmon
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response 64 of 112:
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Feb 21 14:48 UTC 2006 |
Right. I just do not see the responsibility a team member has to his/her
team as being the same responsibility an individual competitor has to
his/her country.
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rcurl
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response 65 of 112:
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Feb 21 16:17 UTC 2006 |
What responsbility does a team or individual have to their country? Are
the Olympics a test of sheer partriotism? They were selected by a
country's Olympics committee of some sort, not by the legislature (except
for Tanith Belbin...).
An alternative intepretation is that the athletes are doing everything for
themselves and seek credentials from the national committees so that they
may do so at the Olympics. What the national committee, or country, thinks
about it is a different matter.
(I raise this question as an example of a more general question of to whom
are the athletes responsible and because of what?)
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richard
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response 66 of 112:
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Feb 21 17:35 UTC 2006 |
re #64 but she is a member of a team, the u.s. snowboarding team, which
collectively has now won one less gold than they anticipated. The team has
sponsors and monetary incentives based on how many medals, and how many GOLD
medals they win.
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nharmon
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response 67 of 112:
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Feb 21 17:52 UTC 2006 |
Did she cause any other team member to NOT get a medal? That is the
difference I make.
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richard
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response 68 of 112:
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Feb 21 18:05 UTC 2006 |
think about her coach. her coach wanted to say he coached a gold medal
winner. now he can't.
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rcurl
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response 69 of 112:
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Feb 21 18:08 UTC 2006 |
She should apologize to him.
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nharmon
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response 70 of 112:
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Feb 21 18:28 UTC 2006 |
I did not think of the coach. Thanks Richard.
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rcurl
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response 71 of 112:
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Feb 21 18:33 UTC 2006 |
Though athletes *pay* their coaches. What other obligation do they have to
them? I will agree that they have an implied obligation to do their best as
their success reflects upon the coach, who can increase their reputation and
income by having successful students. But this concerns the interpersonal
relations between the person and their coach and is not a matter for
regulation.
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richard
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response 72 of 112:
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Feb 21 21:06 UTC 2006 |
I also don't like the medals they are using this Olympics, they made them much
larger and in the shape of an "O" for Olympics. The winners look like they
are wearing doughnuts around their neck. Medals aren't supposed to be that
big and aren't supposed to have a hole in the middle of them...sheesh
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albaugh
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response 73 of 112:
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Feb 21 21:09 UTC 2006 |
She was a punk for what she did. In this case it cost her, not everything,
but definitely #1. It looks like she can live with being a punk.
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tod
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response 74 of 112:
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Feb 21 21:10 UTC 2006 |
These last 2 responses caught my eye. I was ignoring the Olympics this year
until these gems.
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