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carson
response 50 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 5 04:42 UTC 2003

re #49:  (you're assuming correctly, and it's just a Honda CRX.  I think
         they were also going to do a little bit of sightseeing in NYC.)

         [there are some really nice things about the car, but I'm not at
         liberty to say until I actually see it.]
murph
response 51 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 5 14:42 UTC 2003

(well, I guess I have known other people who would travel cross-country for
a CRX.  and the train trip between Toledo and NYC has some nice (scenic)
parts, as long as you're capable of sleeping in a moving, somewhat noisy
environment...)
lynne
response 52 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 02:13 UTC 2003

You're using Celcius?  How does that scale to Celsius?  :)
tsty
response 53 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 08:00 UTC 2003

 .. a few degree-letters earlier, fo course <g>.
asddsa
response 54 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 14:25 UTC 2003

</g>
charcat
response 55 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 06:03 UTC 2003

absolutley a great day yesterday.
asddsa
response 56 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 17:47 UTC 2003

abso-lutely.
gelinas
response 57 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 23:22 UTC 2003

Today was nice, too.  The trees are changing, and the sunlight made them
visible.
scott
response 58 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 00:03 UTC 2003

It's suddenly fall, my neighborhood has leaves all over.  Beautiful day,
sunny, not hot.
gull
response 59 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 00:56 UTC 2003

Lovely today, too, contrary to what I'd expected based on the forecast.
krj
response 60 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 02:00 UTC 2003

Leslie and I drove out Huron River Drive to Dexter, which we try to 
do at least once each fall.  (Grex trip to the Dexter Cider Mill is 
this coming Saturday!)
gelinas
response 61 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 03:21 UTC 2003

I take Joy Road anymore; I don't have the patience to deal with drivers who
can't share the road with cyclists.

Went sailing today.  Good wind, bright sun, not cold at all.  
lynne
response 62 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 03:31 UTC 2003

Driving rain nearly all day in the Boston area.  I drove up to Maine--
presumably the scenery was lovely; I couldn't see a damn thing except the
taillights in front of me.
mcnally
response 63 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 07:18 UTC 2003

  Sunny and cool in Ketchikan today.  There was too much wind to be safe
  out on the water solo so I took the dog and hiked up the hydroelectric
  project's access road up to Lower Silvis Lake. As the road climbs from
  George Inlet up to the lake it offers some unobstructed views to the
  southeast and I was surprised to see mountain peaks in that direction
  that are already covered in this season's snow -- we haven't seen any
  yet on the peak more directly over the town but the peaks around the
  back side of the island and across on the mainland are higher.. 
  Autumn is definitely here, and winter not far away.
krj
response 64 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 16:46 UTC 2003

I'd thought last night's wind would take all the leaves, but there are
still lots left.  Lansing is definitely a few days ahead of Ann Arbor
in losing leaves, though.
keesan
response 65 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 18:44 UTC 2003

The wind blew all the pawpaws off Jim's tree and there are about 20-30 tho
I had only spotted one cluster of about 5.  Got to go check my tree before
the squirrels have a feast.  We have been out wading through red and yellow
carpets.
janc
response 66 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 19:13 UTC 2003

You actually have paw-paws bearing fruit?  I was vaguely under the
impression that they didn't do that frequently.
keesan
response 67 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 20:40 UTC 2003

We hand pollinated between our trees (1.5 miles apart).  Got a good set, to
compensate for the squirrels eating most of the pears and the plums rotting.

It is nearly time to get apples off a parking lot tree.  We always go on the
windiest day last week of October when they are ripe but not all fallen. 
These are very late apples.  Should also check the local sour green ones
again.
mary
response 68 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 22:06 UTC 2003

Just last weekend we attended a picnic / potluck gathering on a friends
farm, near Manchester.  Besides heirloom squash and tomatoes and odd
variety cherry and apple trees they have a paw-paw orchard.  I'd never had
a paw-paw before - they are wonderful!  His trees were fairly loaded with
fruit. 

I asked why we don't see 'em at the market and his best guess is that they
don't travel very well.  They're delicate, evidently.  There must be
more to it as I suspect they'd be a big hit at Busch's.
goose
response 69 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 22:36 UTC 2003

What is a Paw-Paw?
tod
response 70 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 23:19 UTC 2003

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keesan
response 71 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 00:54 UTC 2003

The pawpaws bruise very easily and the bruised spots taste bad.  They are
tropical sorts of trees that supposedly were brought north by the native
americans, with shiny green unserrated leaves sort of like avocado, flowers
the color of rotting meat that are pollinated by carrion beetles (or
paintbrushes), and green fruits that can be as large as 3" long and 2" across.
We got some whoppers off Jim's tree this year, with 10 seeds each - big bround
flat shiny beanlike things.  A friend will plant some of them.
janc
response 72 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 01:34 UTC 2003

In woodlands around here paw-paws tend to exist mainly as small understory
trees.  They often go years without bearing fruit.  They are opportunistic
though.  If a larger tree falls, opening a hole in the canopy, the small
understory paw-paws will sprint for it.

I've never actually seen a fruit.  Raccoons and other creatures tend to
harvest them quickly.  They are supposed to be very sweet and custardy,
loved by some, hated by others.  They mostly get compared to bananas and
mangos, so I suspect I'd be in the "hate em" class.  As Cindi mentions they
are also delicate, which is why you won't be seeing them in grocery stores,
though the fact that some people apparantly  get stomach cramps from eating
them may contribute too.

There are actually a lot of yummy fruits in the world that you'll never see
because for various reasons they aren't commerically growable.  Mulberries
are one.  Serviceberries another.
mary
response 73 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 01:44 UTC 2003

I was told paw-paw seeds are toxic.

Sindi, do you like them?  If so, I'm kind of surprised
as they are probably the sweetest fruit I've ever eaten,
and I didn't think you did sweet.

The guy with the orchard said he's tried freezing them,
making jam, and a number of other ways to save the harvest,
but nothing really worked very well.  They probably are one
of the seemingly few foods which are only available locally in 
season.  Wow.  How retro.
gelinas
response 74 of 123: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 02:08 UTC 2003

Serviceberries are edible?  We just planted some at the Sailing Club.
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