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cross
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response 50 of 197:
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Oct 7 23:56 UTC 2003 |
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tod
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response 51 of 197:
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Oct 8 01:17 UTC 2003 |
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russ
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response 52 of 197:
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Oct 8 02:18 UTC 2003 |
Re #19: The US is a staunch supporter of Israel, in part, because
we are trying to make up for our refusal to accept Jews who were
fleeing Nazi Germany. (We accepted all Jewish emigres from Soviet
bloc countries for that same reason, among others.)
Our acknowledgement of the Holocaust and the moral debt we bear
distinguishes the USA from the Arab countries, most of which
appear to think it was a good idea and want to try again.
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rcurl
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response 53 of 197:
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Oct 8 03:03 UTC 2003 |
I think that the US is a staunch supporter of Isreal primarily because
as a culture Jews tend to be highly education, very competent, hold
high positions in business and government, and vote to some extent as a bloc.
Other minorities would be viewed the same way if they showed the same
capabilities and unity.
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happyboy
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response 54 of 197:
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Oct 8 04:30 UTC 2003 |
...and israel tests our weapons for us! :)
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slynne
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response 55 of 197:
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Oct 8 13:51 UTC 2003 |
That's true they do!
And it is very valuable for the US to have Israel as a ally. But, I
dont think Israel is so important as an ally that we shouldnt put some
strings on the money we send. After all, they dont have to take it.
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tsty
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response 56 of 197:
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Oct 8 15:06 UTC 2003 |
re #43 .. envy of wealth and power is far down the list of the
real envy - individual liberties, freedoms of speech ans association ...
adn religion, to name a few (for now).
envy of wealth and power is destructive - soemtimes wealth adn power
tehmselves are destructive! history is replete with incontroverable
examples of both. (hell, history *is* teh examples of both.)
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sj2
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response 57 of 197:
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Oct 8 16:22 UTC 2003 |
Re #49, I did not say I hate the US or any other country for that
matter. There is no reason for me to hate an entire nation.
Do I detest the actions of the US govt? Yes. Am I critical of the
actions of the US govt? Yes. But so am I of my own nation's govt.
Regarding hatred - I am conveying the impression I gathered having
lived in a part of the middle-east. And ofcourse, India. I accept the
possibility that I could be wrong totally. But here in Oman, I have to
come across a single person who approves of the US govt's actions. Same
goes for India.
Re #56, I never got the impression that people are envious of the US
for any reason. They do deeply detest the ways of the US govt and that
causes hatred.
Anyways, this is the impression I've gathered.
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klg
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response 58 of 197:
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Oct 8 16:34 UTC 2003 |
re: "#52 (russ). . . (We accepted all Jewish emigres from Soviet
bloc countries for that same reason, among others.) . . ."
Mr. russ,
If this is true, then why did we meet several immigrants from the FSU
whose relatives wanted to emigrate to the U.S., but wound up in Israel
instead? (Perhaps they just had a lousy sense of direction??)
klg
Also, it is doubtful that a large percentage of Americans believe that
the U.S. bears a moral debt for its failure to admit Jewish refugees
from Europe before and during the war. It is much more likely that a
very most Americans do not even know that history.
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tod
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response 59 of 197:
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Oct 8 16:58 UTC 2003 |
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murph
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response 60 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:03 UTC 2003 |
Why is a wall such a bad idea? I'd be perfectly fine with it, as long as
Israel builds it on their side of the border and moves all of the settlers
inside of it and lets the Palestinians have their side back.
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other
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response 61 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:13 UTC 2003 |
...which would actually be the one way to prove that it is Palestinians
who are relentlessly pursuing a course of violent attacks on Israel and
not the other way around.
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gull
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response 62 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:17 UTC 2003 |
Of course, that's not the way it's going down. The wall is going to
make some substantial incursions into the West Bank.
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bru
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response 63 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:19 UTC 2003 |
No Tod. Why not tell us.
Moral Debt be damned.
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russ
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response 64 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:23 UTC 2003 |
Re #58: Because Israel placed people in the airports in
Europe where the emigres had layovers, and tried to convince
people to go to Israel rather than other places (like the
USA). Some wanted to do that all along, some were convinced
on the spot, and some wanted nothing to do with it.
And your word-game fools nobody. Anyone with a brain knows
that the American public doesn't write its laws, and
especially not its immigration policies. Politicians do,
and they tend to be both better informed (it's their job)
and pressured harder by special-interest groups.
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richard
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response 65 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:25 UTC 2003 |
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richard
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response 66 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:31 UTC 2003 |
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richard
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response 67 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:32 UTC 2003 |
and now Sharon decides to bomb syria. he is going to cause the entire
region to become destabilized. why is sharon assuming the right to
bomb other countries? Does Israel now have the right to control the
entire middle east?
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other
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response 68 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:39 UTC 2003 |
Whoa, wait just a minute. Why should Sharon be taken to task for bombing
Syria when Syria has been bombing Israel for years? The only difference
is the choice of delivery system. Israel used planes, Syria uses
Palestinians.
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other
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response 69 of 197:
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Oct 9 02:43 UTC 2003 |
Correction: Delivery systems are NOT the only difference. Another
difference is that Israel bombed an abandoned refugee camp as a warning,
while Syria bombs urban cafes and buses full of innocent civilians.
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richard
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response 70 of 197:
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Oct 9 03:30 UTC 2003 |
you are assuming sharon can prove the palestinian suicide bombers were
aided/assisted by Syria, which he hasn't proven. to draw syria into this war
is to threaten to blow this into a full blown middle east war. at some point
the egyptians and the saudis will get involved, no matter how much the u.s.
is paying them to stay on the sidelines
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other
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response 71 of 197:
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Oct 9 03:39 UTC 2003 |
I am not. Syria is ALREADY in this war, it is not being DRAWN into it.
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cross
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response 72 of 197:
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Oct 9 04:33 UTC 2003 |
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other
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response 73 of 197:
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Oct 9 04:39 UTC 2003 |
And Lebanon has been effectively under the thumb of Syria since years
before that.
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lk
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response 74 of 197:
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Oct 9 05:30 UTC 2003 |
Syria has illegally occupied most of Lebanon since 1976.
Following Israel's withdrawal from it's 6-mile wide security strip in
southern Lebanon (as verified by the UN) 3.5 years ago, why didn't the
Lebanese Army fill the vacuum? Why is this region under the control
of a terrorist group which is funded and supported by Syria and Iran?!
For years we were told that if only Israel would play nice and withdraw
from its security strip (designed to keep Hezbollah gunners out of range
of Israel's northern cities), that Hezbollah would stop attacking Israel.
Can anyone explain why Hezbollah continues to attack Israel?
Seems as if that model was severely flawed and unable to correctly
predict future results. No scientist would stick with such a model,
and yet some people continue to say that if only Israel would appease
the terrorists they would stop attacking it....
The correct working model is that these terrorist groups seek Israel's
destruction. This is hardly a secret, they say so themselves.
They will continue to attack Israel (or more correctly, innocent Israeli
civilians, Jewish and Arab), as long as Israel exists and they can.
Outsiders should really stop trying to rationalize these attacks in a
futile effort to make them fit their own warped world view.
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