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tsty
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response 50 of 76:
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Jul 17 06:47 UTC 2003 |
bck to the original topic .... who among us is *also* qualified
as a fighter pilot? an ccomplishment earned loooong before
politics entered gwb's world.
i fly single-engine-land so i have perspective on his qualities
and abilities.
i wish i were as qualified.
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happyboy
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response 51 of 76:
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Jul 17 07:11 UTC 2003 |
gwb...wern't he awol for a year or so?
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jmsaul
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response 52 of 76:
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Jul 17 11:45 UTC 2003 |
Re #50: I'll give him credit for being a fighter pilot, but that doesn't
make him a good President, or even a good person.
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happyboy
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response 53 of 76:
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Jul 17 19:32 UTC 2003 |
an AWOL fighter pilot
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tod
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response 54 of 76:
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Jul 17 19:48 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 55 of 76:
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Jul 17 20:13 UTC 2003 |
He was DSIDHTG. (Daddy Said I Didn't Have To Go.)
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happyboy
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response 56 of 76:
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Jul 17 21:49 UTC 2003 |
heh
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pvn
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response 57 of 76:
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Jul 27 06:54 UTC 2003 |
re#55: His father was Nixon?
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oval
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response 58 of 76:
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Sep 1 15:20 UTC 2003 |
8-29-03
My Darn Good Resum, Accomplishments as President
By GEORGE W. BUSH
The White House, USA
* I attacked and took over two countries.
* I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury.
* I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month
period.
* I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal
record.
* In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on
vacation by any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over
the worst security failure in US history.
* I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by any president in
US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.
* I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other
president in US history.
* I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
* I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any
president in US history.
* I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since
the advent of TV.
* I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any
other president in US history.
* I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to
intervene when corruption was revealed.
* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to
use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* I cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
* I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take
to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for
protest against any person in the history of mankind
* I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
* I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US
history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history.
(The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker
named after her).
* I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union
simultaneously go bankrupt.
* I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in
any country in the history of the world.
* I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military
occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United
Nations and the world community.
* I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history
of the United States.
* I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more
than any other president in US history.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove
the US from the Human Rights Commission.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove
the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.
* I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
Congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
* I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
* I withdrew from the International Criminal Court.
* I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default
no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
* I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign
donations.
* The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best
friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world
history (Kenneth Lay, former CEOof Enron Corporation).
*I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US
history.
* I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and
then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year
made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest
diplomatic failure in US and
world history).
* I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of
Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
stability.
* I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea
more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government
contracts.
* I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who
violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding
for gov't contracts.
* I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any
other president in US history.
* In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in
decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.
* I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than
two years turned every single economic category heading straight down, record
unemployment being the most recent achievement..
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
* I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas drug
conviction has been erased and is not available).
* I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time
of war.
* I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to
my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the
board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public
energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
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klg
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response 59 of 76:
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Sep 1 17:36 UTC 2003 |
(We think that someone's been reading too much of the New York Times.
or perhaps living in Beijing)
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mcnally
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response 60 of 76:
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Sep 1 17:42 UTC 2003 |
Well, it's certainly.. creative.
More than a few of the claims seem quite dubious (e.g. "I am the first
president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of
a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations
and the world community." -- I don't see how that can possibly be true.)
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rcurl
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response 61 of 76:
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Sep 1 18:15 UTC 2003 |
If you don't think it is true, what is your counterexample? Of course,
the US attacked and occupied Japan, but not exactly against "the will of the
United Nations". If it is also added "without armed provocation" then it
must be true.
There are a couple of dubious claims, though: he hasn't amended the
Constitution, although he has violated the Constitution, and the United
Nations is not exactly irrelevant (yet).
However, the accusations are mostly factually correct.
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mcnally
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response 62 of 76:
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Sep 1 23:00 UTC 2003 |
re #61: I suppose it probably depends on your definition of "military
occupation" but the claim is "first president in US history to order
ann attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation." As written
that could probably apply to Panama, Granada, Nicaragua, and possibly
even Hawaii.
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bru
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response 63 of 76:
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Sep 1 23:10 UTC 2003 |
Where do you think he violated the constitution?
What criminal record did he have?
Prove he was AWOL. No one has been able to do that, thoughthey have claimed
it many times.
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drew
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response 64 of 76:
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Sep 2 00:24 UTC 2003 |
I would take issue with the "highest gas prices" claim, as gasoline is cheaper
in real terms now than it was in 1979. However, I consider inflation in and
of itself to be a Bad Thing, and solely the fault of the government.
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i
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response 65 of 76:
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Sep 2 00:57 UTC 2003 |
I don't like Bush one bit, but #58 has enough spin-doctored, sexed-up,
and just plain false stuff in it that i'd probably vote Bush against an
opponent who was trying to pass that list off as the truth.
Re: #63 - Working from the technical definition of AWOL, my understanding
is that too many records are conveniently missing for anyone to prove
anything. In the circumstances, that's pretty damning circumstantial
evidence. Records showing that the rich & powerful did the right thing
are rarely lost. But i'm not much interested in that line of argument.
Blue-blood George took the royal road to a safe & comfy seat in the
'Guard while those of lesser birth had to go to 'Nam, fight a dirty war,
and come home to what was often a villian's welcome for serving their
country.
*Legally*, that's no more "AWOL" than Jefferson Davis killin' a darkie
that he didn't like was "murder". *Morally*, that those with the power
have quietly excepted themselves from having to live by the rules is no
sound defense, but an additional major offence instead.
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gelinas
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response 66 of 76:
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Sep 2 04:01 UTC 2003 |
The US invasions of Mexico didn't result in occupation and were before there
was a United Nations (or even a League of Nations). Same for the creation
of Panama. The invasions of Haiti probably involved occupation but, again,
were before the formation of the United Nations.
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mcnally
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response 67 of 76:
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Sep 2 09:14 UTC 2003 |
re #66: the addendum about "against the wishes of the UN" isn't part of
the condition set up in the claim that Bush is "the first president to
[blah blah blah]", it's tacked on as rhetorical gravy.
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tod
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response 68 of 76:
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Sep 2 16:21 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 69 of 76:
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Sep 2 17:29 UTC 2003 |
Re #68:
It's kind of surprising, though, how little benefit veterans and
individual soldiers are getting from a President they voted for because
he was "strong on defense."
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tod
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response 70 of 76:
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Sep 2 17:44 UTC 2003 |
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pvn
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response 71 of 76:
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Sep 4 05:32 UTC 2003 |
So did President Johnson, and he has the medal to prove it.
As for cutting unemployment benefits? Not sure but it seems to me such
have been extended twice under current administration. The heck with
trying to refute each spun point and who the heck cares what the french
think (thats what folk usually mean). Of the folk with "boots on the
ground" in Iraq the majority (not counting the US) are "europeans".
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klg
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response 72 of 76:
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Sep 13 02:49 UTC 2003 |
We must be dreaming .......
Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch (D) To Vote For President Bush
From Fox News' "Hannity & Colmes"
"I think [Bush has] been terrific. And I have never voted in the past
for a Republican president. ... But I am voting for George Bush this
time around. And I will tell you why. He has created what is now known
as the Bush Doctrine, equal to the Monroe Doctrine, and what is the Bush
Doctrine? That we will go after the terrorists and the countries that
harbor them. And he's kept his commitment, unlike anybody else in the
world. And certainly unlike any of the nine or so Democratic candidates
for president. And the worst one is Howard Dean. I mean, that's
McGovern II." (Fox News' "Hannity & Colmes," 9/11/03)
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rcurl
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response 73 of 76:
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Sep 13 05:08 UTC 2003 |
He seems to have missed the fact that the invasion of Iraq had nothing
to do with the obvious terrorism threats, which have been put on the
back burner.
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pvn
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response 74 of 76:
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Sep 13 07:40 UTC 2003 |
So when did the US military withdraw from Afghanistan? I must have
missed that. (The US hasn't for those sarcasm impaired) Seems to me I
recalls news of a rather hot and long lasting battle there recently.
And North Korea and Iran have been in the news recently for some reason.
Also I seem to recall chatter about some folk in the continent slightly
to the east of our own finally getting around to freezing financial
assests of terrorist orgs. If you are the news market makers and decide
that news from elsewhere is 'back burner' that doesn't mean that the
current administration agrees or does.
A former administration was noted for relying on "overnights" to decide
on actions. Not only does this imply that your decision loop is at
least 24 hours long but it leaves you open to the thousand idiot
problem. (A thousand idiots holding something to be true doesn't make it
so.) A former regime in Iraq relied on a similar 24-hour or longer
decision loop and we all know where most of them are today.
I too will probably vote for Bush in the next election for the first
time. (Last time I voted against Gore, not for Bush). (He done a lot
better than I woulda thought.)
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