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polygon
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response 50 of 81:
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Nov 28 18:43 UTC 2000 |
Agreed that a fresh Whopper (or any Burger King burger) is superior to
any McDonald's burger. Burger King also has made a big deal of accepting
special instructions, so you can get a fresh burger by insisting on "no
mustard, extra onion" or the like. One horribly stale and disgusting
Whopper was enough to convince me never to forget the special
instructions.
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jep
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response 51 of 81:
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Nov 28 19:07 UTC 2000 |
Good point, that; always special-order from Burger King. You have to
think a little about the ingredients, though. Burger King will open up
an existing burger and remove the pickle or onion or tomato. You have
to ask them to omit the ketchup or mustard or barbecue sauce; they can't
remove those once they've been made. Adding anything is not a
productive way to get a better burger; they can add ingredients to a
burger that's already been assembled.
There are times when you can get better food. As soon as the restaurant
opens, the breakfast sandwiches are fine. They switch to lunch food at
10:00 or 10:30, and don't pre-make much then. Peak times are a good
time for fresher food if you eat standard sandwiches, since they turn
over a lot then. Just after peak times are the *worst* time to get food
from Burger King; they probably pre-made more than they needed for the
peak, and so you get leftovers.
The later in the day you get a shake, tea or coffee, the longer since
the machines have been washed.
If it takes less than 3 minutes to get your fish sandwich or chicken
nuggets, they have been stored under a heat lamp and are not fresh.
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gelinas
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response 52 of 81:
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Nov 28 19:11 UTC 2000 |
I don't think fat is added to milk. Different breeds of cows have different
levels of fat; mix them all up and the average is probably close to 3.5%.
Skim milk lets the fat (AKA "cream") rise to the top, where it is "skimmed"
off, resulting in non-fat milk. It is *possible* that dairies skim *all* the
milk and then add the cream back to some of it, to hit the advertised fat
levels. I would expect "whole milk" to un-doctored, though. The cream not
used in the 1% and 2% varieties probably ends up as butter.
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polygon
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response 53 of 81:
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Nov 28 20:25 UTC 2000 |
Re 51. Right, that's the point of "no mustard". :-)
Note that (last I looked) McDonald's serves shakes made from actual dairy
products, and Burger King does not.
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scg
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response 54 of 81:
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Nov 28 20:44 UTC 2000 |
My accidental experimentation a few years ago showed that I could leave empty
McDonald's or Burger King milkshake cups on the floor of my truck without
generating a bad smell, but the Arby's milkshake cup I left in my truck was
smelling really bad within a day or two.
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jep
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response 55 of 81:
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Nov 28 21:08 UTC 2000 |
McDonald's used to have wonderful eggnog shakes at Christmastime, but
replaced them with a low fat substitute that tastes like kerosene soaked
cardboard. I'm not a big fan of McDonald's milk shakes.
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ea
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response 56 of 81:
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Nov 28 21:17 UTC 2000 |
I had a burger today from McDonald's that tasted pretty good for
McDonalds. It was warm, and fairly juicy, almost as good as a Wendy's
burger (IMHO, Wendy's has the best of any fast food - AFAIK, they do
not use heat lamps (however they do use warming pans for the
grilled/fried chicken as it takes at least 5 minutes to fry/grill the
chicken))
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senna
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response 57 of 81:
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Nov 29 01:27 UTC 2000 |
I appreciate Wendy's quality. I love whopper sales and such at Burger King,
too. A whopper, when well made, approaches the best burgers made in any sit
down restaurant, I think.
However, I don't attend any of these restaurants regularly. None serve
mountain dew, and the junkiness of mcdonalds tends to make me feel rather
lousy for the next couple of hours at work, so I eat Taco Bell chicken
products. They are actually quite good.
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keesan
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response 58 of 81:
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Dec 1 23:37 UTC 2000 |
What would all you fast-food devotees do if you had to spend some time in a
country without the American chains?
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mcnally
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response 59 of 81:
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Dec 2 02:05 UTC 2000 |
We'd insist that they put a Starbucks and a KFC inside the Forbidden City
before we'd come to visit.. It seems to have worked so far..
<shudder..>
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scott
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response 60 of 81:
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Dec 2 03:29 UTC 2000 |
Ann Arbor is currently in the process of getting its 3rd Starbucks outlet...
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mcnally
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response 61 of 81:
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Dec 2 03:45 UTC 2000 |
Hah! try living this close to Starbucks' Ground Zero.
Just by itself, the strip mall in Factoria where I often stop for lunch
(a collection of small shops and restaurants centered around a grocery
store, about the size of the Westgate Kroger complex before Kroger moved
out..) has two full-sized Starbucks.
I'm waiting to hear that some computer science or math grad student
at the University of Washington has been granted a Ph.D. for a new
graph-traversal algorithm efficient enough to calculate routes through
Seattle that don't pass either a Starbucks or a Tully's. I mean,
talk about your computationally intractable theory problems..
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keesan
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response 62 of 81:
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Dec 2 04:24 UTC 2000 |
Where is there a Starbucks in Ann Arbor and what do they sell? I have never
seen one, but I live near the center. In fact I have never seen one anywhere.
Is this another hamburg joint?
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jep
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response 63 of 81:
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Dec 2 05:04 UTC 2000 |
Starbucks is a coffee shop chain.
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mdw
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response 64 of 81:
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Dec 2 07:49 UTC 2000 |
Almost anywhere *but* in A^2, Starbucks is almost like dandelions - they
sprout up almost anywhere, but most often in young devloping shopping
malls. I'm not quite sure why one hasn't appeared in downtown A^2 yet,
but possibly the early and rapid deployment of a large number of other
coffeehouses has scared Starbucks off. ERC may be the local equivalent
of Starbucks, since they *do* seem to be everywhere. There are two ways
I could see Starbucks entering the A^2 market: (1) the coffeehouse
market in A^2 crashes, all of the indigenous specimens go belly-up, and
Starbucks enters the resulting vacuum, or (2) Starbucks buys out ERC.
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scg
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response 65 of 81:
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Dec 2 09:01 UTC 2000 |
I think there's a Starbucks at State and Liberty in Ann Arbor, where the
Gratzi Cafe used to be.
In the San Francisco Financial District, where I work, there is at least one
Starbucks per block, and sometimes more. There's at least one in Berkeley
as well.
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scott
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response 66 of 81:
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Dec 2 13:24 UTC 2000 |
Yup, there's a Starbucks at State and Liberty.
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bruin
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response 67 of 81:
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Dec 2 15:50 UTC 2000 |
There is also a Starbucks at Arborland Mall.
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bru
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response 68 of 81:
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Dec 2 17:55 UTC 2000 |
and one in the Arborland mall.
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polygon
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response 69 of 81:
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Dec 2 18:14 UTC 2000 |
Is there an echo in here?
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gull
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response 70 of 81:
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Dec 2 18:51 UTC 2000 |
There's at least three of 'em in the O'Hare terminal.
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beeswing
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response 71 of 81:
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Dec 2 20:50 UTC 2000 |
within a year Memphis got 5 of them.
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remmers
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response 72 of 81:
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Dec 2 20:53 UTC 2000 |
This discussion reminds me of the Simpsons episode where an entire
mall converted to Starbucks outlets in about five seconds.
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scg
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response 73 of 81:
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Dec 2 23:29 UTC 2000 |
Yeah, I was noticing that about O'Hare. Both O'Hare and Denver, the two
United hubs where I seem to end up somewhat frequently, seem pretty shopping
mall like.
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goose
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response 74 of 81:
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Dec 3 17:20 UTC 2000 |
Heathrow has a huge mall inside it.
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