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hhsrat
response 50 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 13 01:10 UTC 1999

What are some of the more unique of the 65536+ possible services 
offered?
mdw
response 51 of 70: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 02:35 UTC 1999

I'm kind of fond of the "esp" service.  Too bad sunos 4.1 doesn't support it,
because we could really use librtpm .
srw
response 52 of 70: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 03:39 UTC 1999

I think a reasonable request was made in fungster's resp:28.
Why don't we open up port 119, so non-members can use it?
no one answered. I will attempt to reconstruct our thinking when the 
policy was established. 

As I recall, we wanted to have it available only to authenticated users, 
so that we could react to complaints that one of our users had spammed a 
newsgroup. 

If it seems like a lame answer now, it may indeed be, but that is what I 
remember was our thinking several years ago. Technically it is rather 
trivial to open up 119 to all, but this is a policy question best left 
for deciding in coop. Oops, we are in coop. Ok then, decide.

By the way, at the time, there were also not a lot of freely accessible 
nntp servers that would allow just anyone from a random system like ours 
to use it. I don't know if this is still true. I rather suspect so. This 
made the question rather moot.
gull
response 53 of 70: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 04:30 UTC 1999

Freely available NNTP servers are rare.  If you open one up, no matter how
obscure, within three weeks you will be on all the lists and will be swamped
by people sucking down UUENCODEd warez using automated scripts.

Ask me how I know.
darkskyz
response 54 of 70: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 11:42 UTC 1999

ok, how do you know? ;)
i agree. within a short period not only will people use it to download warez,
it will also become a known server to send spam from. I don't think that with
all the available services such as dejanews, there is any need for grex to
have NNTP. it will definatly slow grex down because of the increased load on
the already very loaded ISDN line.
gull
response 55 of 70: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 14:59 UTC 1999

I ran an NNTP server on my machine for a while, as a convenience for some of
my friends.  Figured I was safe since my machine is quite obscure.  It took
a few months, but I must have gotten added to a list somewhere, because one
day I found myself deluged by NNTP connections.
steve
response 56 of 70: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 01:10 UTC 1999

   This is the unforunate acpest of the net.  If you open something like NNTP
up, they will come.  Boy, will they come... 
davel
response 57 of 70: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 01:35 UTC 1999

<ponders> aspect?
fungster
response 58 of 70: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 09:25 UTC 1999

re:53: Wrong.
Please see http://www.gj.net/~bhkraft for a list of deliberately open
public news servers. www.talkway.com deliberately leaves its server open for
reading, and so does news.netcom.ca, news.ripco.com, and several others. They
welcome people to these read-only news servers. As for warez, etc., nothing's
stopping people from downloading warez or mp3s via lynx right now, or bad
stuff via deja.com (bleah) or any of the others.

It doesn't really matter anyway, since I use another shell server that gives
me trn.  It's the principle that matters. Allowing open news access is within
Grex's statement of principles, and should be allowed.
gull
response 59 of 70: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 21:32 UTC 1999

I wasn't saying that publicly open ones don't exist.  They *do* get swamped,
however.  We don't have the bandwidth for this kind of activity.  I was
getting hundreds of attempted connections per hour on my machine, and I
didn't even advertise it.  Someone found it somehow (probably from news
headers) and made their knowledge public.  Trust me, if you think Grex is
slow now, you have no idea what it'll be like if we have public news.

use
response 60 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 7 19:59 UTC 2001

Was wondering if it might be practical to have a Usenet newsserver
that only carries posts from Cyberspace members and responses to
these posts.

That wouldn't eat up too many resources.

For other Usenet stuff other services are adequate,but posting and
keeping up the thread is a bit more of a problem.
robh
response 61 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 8 12:30 UTC 2001

<robh wonders how a Grex-only Usenet would be any different from
using PicoSpan>
use
response 62 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 13:03 UTC 2001

re:#61

Robh,

Were you referring to my post about having only posts from GREX on
the newsserver?

I meant that the newsserver would send the messages that are posted
to all Usenet servers everywhere.

use
response 63 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 13:05 UTC 2001

re:#61

Robh,

Were you referring to my post about having only posts from GREX on
the newsserver?

I meant that the newsserver would send the messages that are posted
to all Usenet servers everywhere.

use
response 64 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 13:06 UTC 2001

re:#61

Robh,

Were you referring to my post about having only posts from GREX on
the newsserver?

I meant that the newsserver would send the messages that are posted
to all Usenet servers everywhere.

use
response 65 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 13:10 UTC 2001

Re:#60

I would like to modify my suggestion about a limited Usenet server
here.

I think it would be sufficient to have post only capabilities and not
even be able to get all responses to the thread, just in case that is
too difficult to do.
carson
response 66 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 18:06 UTC 2001

(then what would be the point?)
use
response 67 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 02:41 UTC 2001

re:#66

I need a way to be able to post messages to Usenet using my
Cyberspace email account.

I don't like to post from the webbased Usenet services, because I
don't know how to cut and paste text from elsewhere,especially
from text that I have in a Unix shell email account.
carson
response 68 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 03:18 UTC 2001

(oh, is that all?  I seem to remember an email-to-Usenet gateway
existing.  might that help you, if I could find it?)
use
response 69 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 13:04 UTC 2001

Re:#68

I tried one mail-to-news server and didn't have good results with it.
(My post went to some places, one of which sent me an autoresponder
message.But when I checked on Deja and my local Usenet service,
there was no sign of my post.)

Maybe it is a feasible option,but I haven't found a reliable 
mail-to-news server so far.
carson
response 70 of 70: Mark Unseen   Apr 18 22:13 UTC 2001

(question for staff:  am I correct to assume that one could set up Pine to
access an nntp server if one had the appropriate internet access to
connect to said server?)
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