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janc
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response 50 of 61:
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Nov 23 14:15 UTC 1997 |
To get just as fast, you need to go to persistant processes of one time or
another - a true client server relationships. To get faster you need to
move a lot of processing over to the client, maybe something like a Java
applet running under your browser which keeps track of participation files
and stuff like that. Assuming your computer is faster than 1/64th of Grex,
this should be faster. All of this is possible. None of it is easy. It
definitely does require breaking away from the standard way of building web
applications.
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mdw
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response 51 of 61:
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Nov 23 21:14 UTC 1997 |
If you have a slow network link, then it can't be "just as fast"; with
a straight text interface you can start to read before it all appears,
and you don't have the packetizing overhead on both input and output.
Also, with persistant processes, you have to have more central machine
resources (memory, etc.) because it's not always possible to detect
when the user has abandoned their session.
Efficiency is not a win with web based stuff.
The 2 wins of web based stuff are
(1) local full-screen graphical stuff. Buttons, and boxes, and
pictures, and sometimes even more.
(2) ubiquitous. Nearly everyone has a web browser, and understands
the technology.
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valerie
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response 52 of 61:
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Nov 23 22:03 UTC 1997 |
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mdw
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response 53 of 61:
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Nov 24 21:06 UTC 1997 |
It depends on the browser. Still, it's not likely most people would
care to page through more than one screen-full of text before all of it
is shipped over.
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albaugh
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response 54 of 61:
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Nov 25 16:40 UTC 1997 |
Drift: Are there other web-based conferencing systems out there besides
Backtalk, suitable for a small company's internal use? Is Backtalk available
for use (for a price, surely! :-) by a small company for its internal use?
I assume that Backtalk depends on a Unix-based web server, as opposed to, say,
a Windows NT-based server?
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dpc
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response 55 of 61:
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Nov 25 22:40 UTC 1997 |
Albaugh, WebYAPP is a web-based conferencing system which is used
(at least) by MacWorld. E-mail thaler@m-net.arbornet.org for
details.
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valerie
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response 56 of 61:
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Nov 25 23:21 UTC 1997 |
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mdw
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response 57 of 61:
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Nov 26 00:02 UTC 1997 |
Lynx (right here on grex) uses the same library as mosaic, and has the
same "no text until it's all here" behavior.
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janc
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response 58 of 61:
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Nov 26 00:11 UTC 1997 |
For a good database of web conferencing systems, check out
http://freenet.msp.mn.us/~drwool/webconf.html
Backtalk, is, of course, the best conferencing system on earth (or on any of
the outer planets and associated moons), so you don't really need to look at
that.
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albaugh
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response 59 of 61:
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Nov 26 23:45 UTC 1997 |
In particular, does Backtalk depend on being run on a Unix-based web server?
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janc
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response 60 of 61:
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Nov 27 19:25 UTC 1997 |
Yes.
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dang
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response 61 of 61:
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Dec 1 19:10 UTC 1997 |
However, I just recently went from completely blank computer to full linux
setup with working backtalk in about a day, so that's not too much of a
problem. Granted, there's not much traffic on backtalk, unless I go and type
something, but hey, it's my own PC. :)
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