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Grex > Agora56 > #62: US Supreme Court rules in favor of choice at the end of life. | |
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richard
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response 50 of 74:
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Jan 19 22:56 UTC 2006 |
Kevorkian has already said that if released he will never do an "assisted
suicide" again. The reason is that the state of Michigan revoked his
physician's license. He is an ethical man and believes that ONLY licensed
doctors should be allowed to treat patients. He will not act as a doctor
since he will never again be licensed to do so.
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happyboy
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response 51 of 74:
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Jan 19 23:07 UTC 2006 |
re49:"What is that? It smells delicious! *mummble*"
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tod
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response 52 of 74:
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Jan 19 23:09 UTC 2006 |
re #50
Never Say Never
*twangs 007 music on electric mandolin*
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nharmon
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response 53 of 74:
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Jan 20 00:40 UTC 2006 |
According to Wikipedia, Kevorkian lost his license after the second of
over one hundred assisted suicides. The lack of a physician's license
did not stop him before. Why would it stop him now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevorkian
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tod
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response 54 of 74:
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Jan 20 01:53 UTC 2006 |
The terrorists are WINNING
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klg
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response 55 of 74:
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Jan 20 04:08 UTC 2006 |
That was my recollection, NH. Richard don't know squat.
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richard
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response 56 of 74:
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Jan 20 15:39 UTC 2006 |
re #53 wikipedia might be wrong, don't assume everyting you read on wikipedia
is fact. Kevorkian was also licensed in more than one state. He has in fact
stated in writing that he will no longer treat patients if he is released.
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nharmon
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response 57 of 74:
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Jan 20 16:27 UTC 2006 |
I usually give Wikipedia the benefit of the doubt. Unless you have
something that contradicts it?
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klg
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response 58 of 74:
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Jan 20 17:06 UTC 2006 |
I wonder which definition of "treat" Dr Death has in mind.
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johnnie
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response 59 of 74:
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Jan 20 19:30 UTC 2006 |
Yes--generally speaking, a doctor "treats" patients to make them better,
to keep them alive. Killing a person wouldn't conflict with a promise
not to treat them.
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richard
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response 60 of 74:
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Jan 21 19:21 UTC 2006 |
klg don't call him "dr. death", he has a name. call him "dr.
kevorkian" The man has a family and spent a lot of years helping free
people who were prisoners of their bodies and of chronic pain. I don't
think you can appreciate this issue until or unless you have
experienced that kind of pain and there is nothing you can do about it,
or if someone you loved has experienced that kind of pain.
If a horse or a dog or a cat is in that kind of pain, we put them under
and call it "humane" Yet, because of religious thinking that these
people may not even hold to, they are somehow obliged to stay alive
even when they are screaming in pain day in and day out. Go to a
hospital some time to a Chronic ward klg, listen to the screams. Then
tell me you don't think its humane of one of these people wants a way
to die with dignity, just like dogs and horses get.
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nharmon
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response 61 of 74:
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Jan 21 19:54 UTC 2006 |
Lets not turn this into a another reason to bash religion. Richard,
would you agree that the fact that his actions were good does not
distract from his being a nutjob?
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rcurl
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response 62 of 74:
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Jan 21 20:42 UTC 2006 |
I rather considered him just unconventional.
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nharmon
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response 63 of 74:
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Jan 21 21:02 UTC 2006 |
I think Kevorkian did more harm to his cause than he helped.
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rcurl
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response 64 of 74:
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Jan 21 22:11 UTC 2006 |
Unconventional people often do that. It isn't always obvious what unconvential
course of action will accomplish an objective: e.g., sometimes demonstrations
help, sometimes they hinder.
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klg
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response 65 of 74:
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Jan 21 22:21 UTC 2006 |
I didn't realize there was a Mrs. Death.
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johnnie
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response 66 of 74:
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Jan 22 00:49 UTC 2006 |
There isn't. He was engaged once, but broke it off because his fiancee
"was not self-disciplined." He has said he never married because he
"couldn't find a perfectly compatible partner who shared his values and
goals and interests." Huh--who woulda figured?
He has a sister, though, and has said he has no friends other than the
guy who used to sell him carbon monoxide for his, uh, activities.
>don't call him "dr. death", he has a name.
Don't fuss--he supposedly likes the nickname. He acquired it from his
coworkers when he was a resident at Detroit Receiving Hospital many
years ago. Young Doc Jack requested the night shift because more people
died then. He'd tape open the eyelids of terminal patients so he could
look into their eyes as they died. He claimed his goal was to discover
how eyes changed at the moment of death (and published a paper on the
topic). He called his "project" the Death Rounds, and would wear a black
armband for added effect.
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naftee
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response 67 of 74:
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Jan 22 02:59 UTC 2006 |
i'm conventionally unconventional, russ.
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klg
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response 68 of 74:
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Jan 24 17:35 UTC 2006 |
Regarding curl's confidence that suicide laws adequately protect those
who are unable to give their informed consent:
Last year, in The New England Journal of Medicine, two Dutch physicians
published a set of guidelines for infant euthanasia; one of the doctors
has admitted to presiding over the killing of at least four babies, by
means of a lethal intravenous drip of morphine and midazolam (a
sleeping agent). Although 12-year-olds in Holland already can, with
their parents' approval, legally enlist doctors to kill them, the
dispatching of sick babies remains illegal under Dutch law;
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rcurl
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response 69 of 74:
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Jan 24 19:14 UTC 2006 |
A KLG Irrelevancy - as usual. The Oregon law does not allow a doctor to
administer the drugs. The patient must self medicate. All the doctors (2)
can do is prescribe the drug.
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klg
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response 70 of 74:
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Jan 24 20:13 UTC 2006 |
It looks like the Netherlands is supposed to have the same prohibition:
"Active" euthanasia, the active killing of a patient at his request by
a physician, is illegal in the Netherlands. The Dutch criminal code
provides for 12 years' imprisonment for anyone who "takes the life of
another at his or her explicit and serious request."
Nevertheless, an activist judiciary has rendered the statute
essentially meaningless. In 1973, a doctor who had put her terminally
ill mother to death with morphine received a suspended sentence of a
week in jail, plus a year's probation. The court went even further to
find that, under the proper conditions, active euthanasia would have
been acceptable and legal.
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rcurl
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response 71 of 74:
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Jan 24 23:16 UTC 2006 |
You're arguing over something that happened in 1973? Why not try for 1873?
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klg
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response 72 of 74:
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Jan 25 02:24 UTC 2006 |
?
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naftee
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response 73 of 74:
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Jan 25 04:12 UTC 2006 |
>!
bash-3.00$ exit
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wilt
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response 74 of 74:
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May 16 23:52 UTC 2006 |
HACKED BY GNAA LOL JEWS DID WTC LOL
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