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cross
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response 50 of 66:
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Oct 17 17:31 UTC 2003 |
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flem
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response 51 of 66:
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Oct 17 17:37 UTC 2003 |
Allow me to add that this was explained to me as being official catholic
doctrine.
There, now you can accuse me of making blanket statements, we can move on to
that particular flame war. Here, let me get you started:
So, I'm not allowed to attempt to make generalizations *based on my own
personal experience*? On what, pray tell, am I supposed to be base my
generalizations? The word of some self-professed "expert" on the internet,
whose main qualifications seem to be the fact that he calls the opinions of
people who disagree with him "nonsense"?
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jp2
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response 52 of 66:
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Oct 17 17:44 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 53 of 66:
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Oct 17 18:50 UTC 2003 |
Re #51: You're supposed to only base your generalizations on what cross
says. Duh.
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mcnally
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response 54 of 66:
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Oct 17 19:56 UTC 2003 |
I don't think flem was generalizing, as he was careful to point out that
he was speaking of his own experience. I will say that my experience in
the Catholic parishes I grew up in was different than flem's -- either
that or we're just talking about different degrees of latitude in
interpretation. I pretty much agree that allowable personal interpretation
of scripture among Catholics is bounded by some core tenets of the faith,
I'm just not sure that that's what flem is talking about.
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other
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response 55 of 66:
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Oct 17 21:04 UTC 2003 |
i think people take comments made by other people about their own
particular experiences and respond to them as if the original comment WAS
a gross generalization about everybody, and this happens with far greater
frequency than actual gross generalizations being made on the basis of
personal experience, at least for most people posting on Grex.
There ARE some who post as if their particular limited experience was
representative.
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cross
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response 56 of 66:
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Oct 18 02:14 UTC 2003 |
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remmers
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response 57 of 66:
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Oct 18 19:40 UTC 2003 |
At least we know what flem's generalization (if any) is based on,
so folks can decide on their own how much weight to give it. Can't
say that about everybody's generalizations. :)
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gull
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response 58 of 66:
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Oct 21 13:51 UTC 2003 |
Where *do* you go if you want to find out what Official Catholic Policy
is on a particular issue? We've already established that asking a local
parish isn't reliable.
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cross
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response 59 of 66:
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Oct 21 15:05 UTC 2003 |
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krj
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response 60 of 66:
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Oct 21 23:15 UTC 2003 |
For those who reject my formulation in resp:14, how do *you* characterize
the difference between Catholic and Protestant ideology?
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krj
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response 61 of 66:
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Oct 21 23:52 UTC 2003 |
I'm also somewhat puzzled by jep's resp:41
"I guess there's a lot of anti-religious bigotry on Grex."
since what I see here is a fairly neutral attempt to discuss
doctrines and ideologies, in a fairly non-attacking way.
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flem
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response 62 of 66:
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Oct 22 18:26 UTC 2003 |
re #58: In 2000 or so the church put out a big fat book that was the "revised
catholic catechism" or something like that. I would bet that would be a good
spot to start looking for official answers. I spent 5 mins googling yesterday
about this, but all the relevant stuff I found was too deeply buried in
theological jargon and official doublethink, and I got bored.
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senna
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response 63 of 66:
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Oct 22 21:12 UTC 2003 |
In fairness, while I think that a larger-than-normal proportion of grexers
are somewhat condescending or hostile toward organized religion, this has been
a pretty balanced discussion.
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vidar
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response 64 of 66:
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Nov 2 19:43 UTC 2003 |
I generally stay out of religious discussions, but my time for being
silent is over.
In general, I don't like organized religion because of the verbal
masturbation of the qualities of the deities that any one with the holy
book of the religion can think about for themselves. Also, I have had
my share of intolerance - generally against Christianity - because when
I tried Christianity I was physically abused in my church at Sunday
School, and after I had left Christianity I had to go to a
Fundamentalist Christian Missionary school for my last semester of High
School.
I have calmed down since then and only aim my hate at
particular "religious" individuals or groups. Also, I was ordained in
the Church of Spiritual Humanism in September. I joined because I saw
the lack of reason that had erupted since 9/11. Do I agree with
everything I read in my Officiate's Manual? No. In fact I think one
of the contributors is a major asshole.
Am I a counter-missionary? In a way, I guess. Personally, I don't buy
the "only one right way" mentality, I instead believe in the "everybody
is right, in their own way" view. I have friends and relatives of many
beliefs, and we generally get on just fine, sometimes with a bit of
bickering, but generally that gets resolved with out hurt feelings.
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dcat
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response 65 of 66:
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Nov 27 06:27 UTC 2003 |
re resp:31 --- I have seen sheepskin condoms for sale. No, I don't
remember
where or when, although for some reason I think the package was black.
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willcome
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response 66 of 66:
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Nov 27 08:07 UTC 2003 |
just don't use them with veg. whores. disrespectful. they'll still do you,
though.
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