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twinkie
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response 49 of 365:
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Oct 1 22:43 UTC 2000 |
re: 45 -- I suppose it could, but the computer would have to know to wait
almost two munites before leaving a message.
re: 46 -- From people who have to go through Privacy Manager? No, not really.
Unless they're legitimate calls for me.
re: 48 -- I forgot to mention that you can give friends/family/work a PIN to
bypass Privacy Manager.
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russ
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response 50 of 365:
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Oct 1 23:08 UTC 2000 |
Ah, "Privacy Manager". This is another scam perpetrated by the
phone companies:
- They still get to allow advertisers to connect to the phone
network with PBX's that do not transmit CLID information,
making the CLID for which their customers are paying useless.
- Because of the previous omission, the phone companies get to
soak some of their CLID subscribers for Yet Another Fee.
If this had been done right, the CLID/ANI information format would
include an "advertising/sales" flag which could be checked either at
the switch or at the subscriber, and the calls dropped. This would
cost nothing, and get rid of the majority of the nuisance calls.
Instead, we got a system set up to screw the public.
This is what we get for letting PHONE COMPANIES design the protocol.
The recent example of the Internet standards committee rejecting demands
by the FBI et al. to incorporate wiretapping features in the basic
workings of the Internet is a much better example.
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drew
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response 51 of 365:
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Oct 2 01:52 UTC 2000 |
Does anybody actually buy anything from these companies on account of the
telemarketing? I can't imagine this sort of thing endearing a company to
anyone enough to make them willing to do business with it.
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n8nxf
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response 52 of 365:
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Oct 2 13:08 UTC 2000 |
No, never.
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jerryr
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response 53 of 365:
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Oct 2 13:51 UTC 2000 |
the markets they hope to mine are the incredibly lonley and confused,
senior citizens, the under-informed young and the terminally gullible.
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keesan
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response 54 of 365:
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Oct 2 15:09 UTC 2000 |
A friend's mother just remortgaged her house to pay off credit card loans she
had taken out to purchase magazine subscriptions that she thought she had to
purchase in order to be eligible for a prize drawing. Her house is full of
plastic trinkets she has 'won'. Lots of gullible people around.
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danr
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response 55 of 365:
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Oct 2 15:54 UTC 2000 |
Instead of a sucker being born every minute, we now have suckers being born
every nanosecond.
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jep
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response 56 of 365:
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Oct 2 16:23 UTC 2000 |
I never buy anything from a telemarketer. In fact, I never listen to
their spiel. If I can detect the 1-3 second delay from an automatic
dialer system, I hang up before I talk to the telemarketer at all.
Other than that, I rudely dismiss them as soon as I detect what they're
calling about. That phone is my phone, it is not a device intended for
telemarketers. I don't want any insurance, vinyl siding, gadgets from
Ronco, movies or CDs, or to donate money to the "police benevolent
fund". I don't want to change phone plans. If I want anything from a
company, I will call one, or more likely visit one, and I will get it.
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keesan
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response 57 of 365:
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Oct 2 16:32 UTC 2000 |
Someone rang my doorbell recently who was much harder to get rid of. First
she asked if I wanted to help disadvantaged youth from Chicago. I asked her
to get to the point. She would not. Finally she showed me some list of
magazines. I said I don't read magazines. She said I did not have to read
magazines, just help her get points. I said I was not buying anything but if
she wanted money she could probably find yardwork this time of year. She said
she was from Chicago and could not work here........ I left. She left.
It is much easier to get rid of people on the phone - just tell them you never
give money to anyone who calls on the phone.
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johnnie
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response 58 of 365:
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Oct 2 17:17 UTC 2000 |
That there is a whole other nasty scam. These kids, often underaged or
street kids or otherwise vulnerable, are rounded up with the promise of
easy money and adventure, driven far from home for weeks and months at a
time, barely fed, sleep wall-to-wall in cheap hotel rooms, used as
practically slave labor to "sell magazines" or "raise funds for (fill
in blank)".
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jerryr
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response 59 of 365:
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Oct 2 20:07 UTC 2000 |
i always ask those kids if they want to call their parents. i attempt to hand
them a cordless phone. they usually don't. then i ask to see their license
to sell door-to-door (one is required in ypsi.) if they cannot produce one
i tell them that i am a neighborhood watch captain and i am calling the police
to report them. and i do.
john, if you have the time, the next time you get a call from a fundraiser
for a police association, ask the caller if they are a sworn police
officer. then, stand by while they sputter that they are not. they are
professionals in a boiler room operation. it's fun.
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keesan
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response 60 of 365:
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Oct 2 21:14 UTC 2000 |
We sometimes get boys from Detroit trying to sell candy. I tell them that
we never buy candy. They don't want to work either. Would someone like to
start a new short answer item as this one has been waylaid?
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beeswing
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response 61 of 365:
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Oct 2 21:27 UTC 2000 |
I know a guy who worked as a telemarketer for a short time. He had all
kinds of stories. He speaks Japanese, and one night he was assigned to
call places in Miami. Oddly enough, he gets ahold of a guy who is from
Japan and has just moved to the US. My friend begins speaking to him in
Japanese. They ended up chatting for a few minutes until my friend
realizes that the guy thinks he is calling from Miami. The Japanese guy
thought he had someone to finally hang out with. my friend felt
horrible and quit shortly thereafter.
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swa
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response 62 of 365:
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Oct 3 05:08 UTC 2000 |
Short question: anyone know anything about dream psychology?
Specifically, what are teeth supposed to symbolize? I had two very odd
dreams last week involving teeth. In one, all my teeth were falling out
because I was living in Victorian times. (I should mention that the area
where I live has a lot of Victorian houses. In the dream, the houses
were inhabited by actual Victorian people, traveling in horse-drawn
carriages, and my teeth fell out in rebellion against a lack of modern
dentistry.) In the other dream, I had to get braces again, even though I
went through the whole orthodontia route in junior high. Here I was
riding in a car rather than a carriage, though.
So, what does this mean? (Other than the fact that I'm *nuts*, that
is...) Aren't teeth supposed to symbolize something-or-other?
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bdh3
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response 63 of 365:
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Oct 3 05:53 UTC 2000 |
You are changing your point of view about a significant other and are
ambivalent about it. Teeth are defensive and thus losing your teeth
means you are more accepting of, but on the other hand, the
'orthodontia' is an artificial modern building up of the defenses thus
you are not sure of your 'mileu' accepting of said.
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carson
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response 64 of 365:
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Oct 3 06:02 UTC 2000 |
(Freud said dreaming about teeth falling out meant the dreamer was
feeling guilty about masturbation. Freud was overcredited anyway, so I'm
sure that piece of information isn't useful in the slightest.)
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bdh3
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response 65 of 365:
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Oct 3 07:46 UTC 2000 |
re#64: I am so sure that is not the case above. I mean come on. She is
not doing a bit about rubbing her buzzer, assuming the above is a she.
She is clearly not doing a bit about 'trains and tunnels'.
And now that you mention it where did Freud say what you claim? I have
most if not all his writings somewhere in my library? Cite!
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birdy
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response 66 of 365:
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Oct 3 07:51 UTC 2000 |
I know there's something about teeth falling out, but I try to see things as
they relate to their surroundings. Rebelling was mentioned, so go with that.
Also, orthodontia suggests making order from disorder.
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scott
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response 67 of 365:
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Oct 3 11:23 UTC 2000 |
Maybe you're feeling guilty about not flossing enough?
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jerryr
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response 68 of 365:
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Oct 3 13:43 UTC 2000 |
Is it true that Freud started with hypnosis?
Yes. He started his psychotherapy with hypnosis with the help of Breuer who
was an excellent hypnotist and had no problem with use of hypnosis. However
in 1895 Freud separated with Breuer. Freud had lost his teeth thanks to
over-abuse of Cocaine and his false teeth did not fit too well. Thus he lisped
and soon discovered that his lisping precluded him from being a great
hypnotist. Therefore he developed his talking therapy and developed the
"couch" with the therapist sitting out of view of the client. Freud mentioned
that his talking therapy was for the rich and would need 300 sessions to
produce cure.
and.....
All kind of playing (playing instruments also), sliding, slipping and breaking
branches are symbols of masturbation. The teeth falling out and extraction
of them are symbols of castration as a punishment for masturbating
(castration's complex).
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brighn
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response 69 of 365:
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Oct 3 14:12 UTC 2000 |
All right, since Sarah said it was all right to rant elsewhere, here goes.
First off, the concept of the Dream Encyclopedia is patently absurd. You can't
go to a book (or a person) and say, I dreamed about penguins, donkeys, and
toothpicks... what did that mean? True, there are cultural meanings to
symbols, but dreams are personal, not cultural, events, and personal meanings
can and do override cultural ones.
So, the first thing to do when you have an odd dream is to ask YOURSELF, what
do these symbols mean? Do you have memories about teeth? When you think about
teeth, what sort of feelings do you get? Could the word be a pun in some way
-- perhaps a play on teats, or a reference to a person? What other aspects
of the teeth seem relevant?
THEN, *maybe* go to some dictionaries of cultural icons (including dream
dictionaries) to get some ideas about the cultural meanings of the item --
keeping in mind that those meanings may have changed, or that they may simply
not apply to you. Think about how teeth are perceived of in this culture, and
perhaps generate your own cultural definition. Think about what contexts you
see teeth in, and where you see mouths but not teeth, and how it makes you
feel, and how it seems to make other people feel, and what you've heard people
say about teeth.
All this time, keep in mind that sometimes a duck is just a duck... perhaps
you were clenching your teeth in your sleep, and that carried through to your
dream. then it may be not the teeth themselves that's relevant to your
unconscious processing, but rather how you chose to build a story around them
... why, when faced with the conscious fear of losing your teeth (typical when
grinding your teeth in your sleep) did you choose to create a story about
living in Victorian times and not being able to get to a dentist? Perhaps you
have an anxiety of taking modern technology too much for granted. Perhaps you
want to give yourself up to more fantastical modes of thinking, but are afraid
of leaving certain benefits behind?
Of course, it would be a lot easier to just get some dream dictionary
definition of "teeth means how you view relationships" or some equally
juvenile poppycock, but then you'd just find out what someone else might have
thought having had your dream. No good to you.
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jazz
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response 70 of 365:
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Oct 3 14:17 UTC 2000 |
That's even if you buy one of the many "it *has* a system to it"
theories about dreaming. At least one theory proposes dreams are random
mental noise filtered through human pattern recognition.
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xcalibur
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response 71 of 365:
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Oct 3 15:03 UTC 2000 |
Brighn knows everything about anything, Sarah, you'd best listen to him.
*quiet snicker*
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tod
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response 72 of 365:
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Oct 3 15:06 UTC 2000 |
*snort*
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jazz
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response 73 of 365:
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Oct 3 15:29 UTC 2000 |
Hey, I argue with Brighn more than the average guy, but you have to
admit that when he's right, he's right.
If he's wrong, then you might go about suggesting ways in which he is
wrong rather than saying "you're a know-it-all", because that only proves that
you're the sort of person who can be "louder-than-a-know-it-all".
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