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mary
response 48 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 12:47 UTC 2009

I'm glad we're having this discussion now because hardware has a 
lifespan and even if our equipment is reliable now, it won't always be 
so.  A big part of my perspective on this is assuming we have to make a 
choice between our own hardware or virtual hardware.

These systems that are running on for-profit hardware wouldn't be there 
long if service was lousy.  I consider that soft data.  How are we doing 
in terms of use?  How does fairly frequent downtown, like over the last 
holiday weekend when Provide wasn't there to reboot, affect our 
community?  Again, soft data, but I'd think it hurts us in terms of 
users.  

And I'd really like to hammer home my point about privacy on Grex.  I 
can't speak for STeve but over the years the terrain has changed. First 
off, we don't have physical control of the machine. He who has the 
machine has root. Two, if one of our users, foreign or US citizen, had a 
presence here and he or she was under investigation, we'd give it up.  
Period.  In many instances it would be illegal not to.  Too, we couldn't 
afford to legally fight to protect that information.  At least not for 
long, like past a token retainer.  So we must not, in any way, pretend 
we're about privacy. The best thing we could do, all around, is warn 
people to be very careful what they do here with sensitive information.

Regarding hard data, you're not going to get it until you can compare 
Grex on virtual to Grex at Provide.  Hence, my suggestion we give it a 
try.  But first we need a miracle.  Staff.
naftee
response 49 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 00:19 UTC 2009

COGNRANTUG:LATIONS< TS> FOR WINNING THE BOARD SEAT>

ARE YOU GOING TO BE TYP:ING UP THE MINUTES ? I THINK THEY REALLY SHOULD MAKE
YOU SEDCRETARY

MJAYBE THE IRS WILL TAKE A QUCICK LOOK AT THOSE FUNKY MINUTES<> REEZEF> AND
THEN SEND SOE P{OELICE OFFICIERS TO BREAK UP THE NEXT BOARD MEETING NBECAUSE
WHO KNOWS< YUOU GUYS MIGHT BE ON ACID< JUDGING BY THAT TYPING AND THE USE OF
PSYCHEDELIC WORDS SUCH AS "EPISTOLICALLY EPISTEMOLOGICALLY SOUND< DUDE"


JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT< YOU KNOW
tsty
response 50 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:57 UTC 2009

wroing item .. tnx for palying .. i will *never* take notes-4-plbicatoin.
  
btw, my tping has been this 'good' since .. well, that was a long itme ago.
  
back to the posible improbvements to grex thoguhts....
  
i like what cross is putting forth ... any remmers comments about
his provider and unix experiments ... open newuser?
naftee
response 51 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 23:42 UTC 2009

newuser is still not up?
cross
response 52 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:36 UTC 2009

On Grex?  It works just fine; I just ran it.
tsty
response 53 of 56: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 07:11 UTC 2009

i was asking about the psuedo-site remmers established ... well, it;ls
a real site .... sorry .... but the maintainers mighrt object to
our newuser and unix experiments.
lar
response 54 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 11:14 UTC 2009

"COGNRANTUG:LATIONS< TS> FOR WINNING THE BOARD SEAT>

ARE YOU GOING TO BE TYP:ING UP THE MINUTES ? I THINK THEY REALLY SHOULD
MAKE YOU SEDCRETARY

MJAYBE THE IRS WILL TAKE A QUCICK LOOK AT THOSE FUNKY MINUTES<> REEZEF>
AND THEN SEND SOE P{OELICE OFFICIERS TO BREAK UP THE NEXT BOARD MEETING
NBECAUSE WHO KNOWS< YUOU GUYS MIGHT BE ON ACID< JUDGING BY THAT TYPING
AND THE USE OF PSYCHEDELIC WORDS SUCH AS "EPISTOLICALLY
EPISTEMOLOGICALLY SOUND< DUDE"


JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT< YOU KNOW"



HAHAHAHAHA! I vote tsty for sedcrutary!
tsty
response 55 of 56: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 03:47 UTC 2009

i don;t do minuets - canr;t tpey w.a.s.
naftee
response 56 of 56: Mark Unseen   Apr 18 14:33 UTC 2009

 :(
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