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Grex > Coop13 > #376: The problems with Grex, e-mail and spam | |
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keesan
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response 470 of 480:
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Mar 20 01:08 UTC 2007 |
Two more requests today. I have a stock filter that anyone can copy over if
they know how to edit one line. Could I change /var/mail/keesan to
/var/mail/$USER and have it work that way for just anyone?
Two people wanted whitelists, the others either wanted to dump anything with
3 points and save 2 points in a folder, or save it all. So perhaps staff
could set up some automated script allowing people to choose among these three
options. Or I can continue to send pretty much the same message to everyone
who writes me and edit the file for them. It takes about a minute.
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keesan
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response 471 of 480:
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Mar 21 13:17 UTC 2007 |
One of the volunteer guinea pigs reports NO false positives (his friends had
stopped using this address), and of 120 spams, 95 were dumped by spamassassin
set to three points, and 25 went to the spam folder or his INBOX. That is
about 80%, as I predicted, and higher if you count what went to the spam
folder, which you can delete by typing d rather than individual messages in
it.
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easlern
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response 472 of 480:
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Mar 21 14:04 UTC 2007 |
Good work, keesan!
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keesan
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response 473 of 480:
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Mar 22 16:58 UTC 2007 |
Nine people have now requested help, most of them non-conferencers. A
Mexican, a Scandinavian or two. Two Americans are reporting back. They are
keeping logs of what went where. One dumped 9 of 13 spams (the others went
to INBOX or spam folder). One asked for an additional filter because he gets
lots of spams per day and 20% of 150 is still a lot. I now have a default
filter for people who don't want to remember to read and delete the log (since
spamassassin set to 3 points has never yet caught a real mail). It dumps 3
point spam, sends 2-2.99 point spam to a spam folder, and has sections you
can customize for a whitelist or to filter on words in the message body or
subject line. One person is going to add to his filter that way. Some of
these people don't write English well enough to report back, so they are not
getting a log file of what went where. Two people only wanted a whitelist
- they will fill it in themselves. I don't know how to automate making a
whitelist.
Could I set up .procmailrc with $USER instead of the login name, and let
everyone copy over the same .procmailrc from my directory? Or from some other
location on grex, along with .forward? Maybe staff could write some script
called 'filter-spam' or the like, that would copy these files for people
without my further involvement. I could even write the script and have staff
copy it to some place on the path and leave the files in my home account.
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albaugh
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response 474 of 480:
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Mar 22 19:27 UTC 2007 |
A Mexican, a Scandanavian, and an American walked into a free shell/mail site..
...
;-)
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krokus
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response 475 of 480:
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Mar 23 01:49 UTC 2007 |
Did they run into the priest and the rabbi?
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keesan
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response 476 of 480:
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Mar 23 22:11 UTC 2007 |
Someone from India wrote that he had been trying to make his own .procmailrc
and had failed, and thanks for mine, which was working. Then my mail to him
bounced. How do I get hold of him to let him know something is broken?
My filter worked for other people. He probably tried to improve it.
USER is not his real login.
pipe to |/usr/local/bin/procmail
generated by USER@grex.cyberspace.org
The following text was generated during the delivery attempt:
------ pipe to |/usr/local/bin/procmail
generated by USER@grex.cyberspace.org ------
procmail: Lock failure on "/var/mail/USER.lock"
procmail: Error while writing to "/var/mail/USER"
[two more copies of these two lines follow]
------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
Subject: Re: Lots of spam
> Sindi,
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> Thanks for all the help. I have copied the .procmail and .forward in my
> folder. I had a .procmail myself, but it did not work - most likely reason
> being I could not set it up correctly.
> I hope to get some relief from mails related to viagra, free holiday on hawai
> island, penis enlargement medicine, personal loans - all of which I do not
> need.
> Thanks once again.
USER from India
Followed by my response.
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keesan
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response 477 of 480:
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Mar 24 15:20 UTC 2007 |
Please could some staff member edit .procmailrc for guntun and change
/var/mail/guntum to /var/mail/guntun. My goof. Or even just delete the file
so I can write him about this. Or copy over ~keesan/procmailrc.guntun to
there.
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gelinas
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response 478 of 480:
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Mar 25 00:58 UTC 2007 |
(I fixed it, Sindi.)
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keesan
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response 479 of 480:
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Mar 25 02:29 UTC 2007 |
Thanks, Gelinas. I will notify the other staff members.
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keesan
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response 480 of 480:
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Mar 26 03:31 UTC 2007 |
Tenth request for a spam filter, from Jogya[karta?]. I now have a universal
procmailrc.user to be copied to .procmailrc that sends mail to
/var/mail/$USER, which I tested on myself.
Copy that and .forward. Could copies of these files be put some place other
than my home directory, and a script be put on the path to copy them
automatically, perhaps even from the menu?
My default - throw out anything with 3 points, put anything with 2-2.99 points
in spam folder, do not keep a log. One guinea pig said his log got so big
he was near quota on disk space. Everyone has been getting 80% of spam
discarded and most of the rest in the spam folder. I put in some samples for
whitelists and for sending list mail to a separate folder and for sending mail
with certain strings in the message body to the spam folder.
Two people just wanted to set up whitelists. I have not heard back from them.
We could have a spamfilter script and a whitelist script.
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