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md
response 46 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 10:54 UTC 1998

Re #44, her name is Kim Basinger, of course, and I have to admit
I didn't get what was supposed to be so great about her performance
in this movie.  I love the way she looks, and she can do comedy
really well (see Blind Date, which she *almost* saved with her 
performance).
remmers
response 47 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 12:25 UTC 1998

I didn't see what was was all that great about KB's performance
in "L.A. Confidential" either, although she did win an Academy
Award (Best Supporting Actress) for it. I did like the film,
though.

Wasn't all that fond of "Smilla's Sense of Snow" -- story was
mildly intriguing as it developed, Smilla herself was an
interesting character, but the ending was hopelessly gimmicky.
People who both read the book (I haven't) and saw the movie
said that the social and cultural commentary that gave the
book interest was missing from the film.

Saw "Out of Sight", and it's fine entertainment, and also
director Stephen Soderberg's ("sex, lies, and videotape") first
big commercial success. George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez are
fine as the leads, there's an interesting and well-played array
of minor characters (Michael Keaton has a fun cameo, and I
didn't recognize Albert Brooks), and there's intriguing use
of flashbacks and color that are characteristic of Soderberg
(notice that almost every scene is predominantly one color --
there are yellow scenes, red scenes, and the scenes of inner
city Detroit in winter are appropriately drab and grubby-
looking). These Elmore Leonard adaptations all seem to have
a certain sameness about them though, and I prefer Quentin
Tarentino's treatment of a Leonard story in "Jackie Brown",
but "Out of Sight" is quite good, and I recommend it.
tendo
response 48 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 17:59 UTC 1998

I saw mulan and thought that it was okay.
iggy
response 49 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 23:53 UTC 1998

i saw 'gone with the wind' on the big screen.
<the non-PC parts made me uncomfortable>
but, the rest was wonderful. i had only seen it on tv before. the
big screen is incredible! there were so many details i missed
visually.. now i saw them.
the scene where scarlett is dressed in curtains and rhett turns
her hands over and is appalled--- her hands were actually
covered in huge callouses and blisters.
all the letters/correspondence were readable when shown.
lots more visable in the background too!
for those of you who have only seen it in tv or video... this is a must.
hematite
response 50 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 00:16 UTC 1998

Or for those who have never seen it, such as myself, until last night. I
concur with iggy, it was a wonderful movie. I personally loved the 
costuming, but I'm a costume freak. I would have loved to be able to wear
what the 'belle's' did back then, so beatiful.(If uncomfortable..)
albaugh
response 51 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 07:54 UTC 1998

The "non-PC" parts?  Such as what?
beeswing
response 52 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 22:24 UTC 1998

Oh you know, things like when Scarlett slaps Prissy (a black slave), when
Scarlett's dad uses the word "darkies", that sorta thing.

What I found most disturbing is near the end, when Rhett is drunk and torments
Scarlett about her love for Ashley Wilkes. He threatens her with bodily harm,
then grabs her and carries her up the stairway to teach her a lesson... in
other words, now that he's threatened her, he's turned on and wants assert his
power by doing her, the fact that she is less than willing notwithstanding (she
struggles to get away, but in a weak-fisted manner, and then submits after all
of 15 seconds). The next morning she wakes up all happy and content after being
disciplined.

And the worst part? Most everyone in the theater cheered.
iggy
response 53 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 23:48 UTC 1998

not to mention the 'political meetings' were klan activities.
omni
response 54 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 07:02 UTC 1998

 being too PC can ruin anything. Please lighten up. After all, it's just a
movie.
wolfg676
response 55 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 10:24 UTC 1998

Agreed. If you want to see a PC movie, go see almost anything Disney. Who,
I note, has yet to (re-)release "Song of the South" because the're afraid they
might offend somebody. Anyone see that joke commercial for Disney's "Titey"
on SNL?
scott
response 56 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 11:06 UTC 1998

Disney is PC?  You totally sure about that?  ;)
omni
response 57 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 13:28 UTC 1998

  I saw "Song of the South" as a child, and I even grew up with the Joel
Chandler Harris stories, and gee, I'm still a well balanced person. My views
are such that I think everyone has a right to a piece of the pie, no matter
where they come from beit Africa, or anywhere else.
  I learned some of my most basic life lessons from listening to Harris's Brer
Rabbit, especially "Brer rabbit and the Tar Baby" which has always been one
of my favorites. That one taught me that things sometimes *look* simple when
viewed on the surface, but are most always more complicated once you get into
them, and soon there is a point where you wish you had never saw it.

  I think disney lacks backbone, and courage. Because of PCism, we will lose
most if not all of our culture because someone somewhere might be offended.
Where does the book burning line form?
iggy
response 58 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 15:43 UTC 1998

in my review,i said it was a great movie, but the
non-pc parts made me uncomfortable.
so... now i'm being labeled as uptight and a
book burner because i'm uncomfortable with klan activities?
sheese!
rcurl
response 59 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 17:08 UTC 1998

Why does Disney (studios) need backbone or courage when they are raking
in so much money? Most backbone and courage appears from among those
that give less high regard to money.
beeswing
response 60 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 17:50 UTC 1998

Sometimes it's just real subtle. Like in _Beauty and the Beast_, in the
beginning there is a song about Belle, the main character. I don't remember the
exact lyrics, but it talks about how she is weird because she likes to read
books and is smart. Who's the main group to watch this film? Yep, young girls.
Hmph.
albaugh
response 61 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 20:54 UTC 1998

Nobody says you have to like or approve one person slapping another.  But
seeing it in a movie makes you uncomfortable?  Puh-leeze.  Label the character
violent or something, but deal with it.  And hearing 19th-century characters
using the term - gasp! - DARKIES - again, deal with it:  They did a lot worse
things in the 19th century.  But it's stupid to try and whitewash history by
making movies that PC-ize what really happened.
coyote
response 62 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 20:59 UTC 1998

Disney just re-released Peter Pan on video, I believe.  I wonder if they
managed to change that so it's PC or are leaving it "Why is the Red Man Red?"
and "Why does the Red Man say 'Ugh'"?
remmers
response 63 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 21:22 UTC 1998

Re #61: Saying that seeing something in a movie makes you
"uncomfortable" isn't the same thing as saying that you think
such things shouldn't be in films, or that you can't "deal
with it". Reminders of the less savory historical aspects
of our interracial and intergender make me "uncomfortable"
too, I suppose. But I think we need those reminders.

It's interesting to read these defensive over-reactions to
what was a pretty innocuous statement on iggy's part.
albaugh
response 64 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 21:27 UTC 1998

Hey, doncha know that it's PC to be anti-PC?!  ;-)
arianna
response 65 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 21:36 UTC 1998

I saw _Ghost In The Shell_ last night; great amime flick!  I'd read the
graphic novel before seeing the movie, which helped immensely in follwoing
the somewhat confusing storyline.  There were some good parts that got left
out of the movie, but there was some beatufiul eyecandy scenes in the movie
that the novel would've been hard-pressed to recreate.
karmic
response 66 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 23:25 UTC 1998

It's a GOOD sign if things like racism in movies make you "uncomfortable".
If you're perfectly comfortable with such things, worry. :)
other
response 67 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 00:26 UTC 1998

Why should we be uncomfortable with depictions of racism, sexism, brutality,
or other -isms, if they are being depicted as part of life in an era in which
they were part of life?  Should we go back through all our historical fiction
and update it to eliminate all such references which might offend someone?

Please!  If you are uncomfortable with it, that's your own issue.  It doesn't
mean you're a racist if you are comfortable with such depictions.
karmic
response 68 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 03:14 UTC 1998

I never said we should take things out of movies.  I think it's important
to see all that bad stuff, within its historical context.  What I'm saying
is, it's good to be uncomfortable with the -isms themselves.
krj
response 69 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 04:05 UTC 1998

Campus film groups live!  #1:
 
U. Mich's Center for Japanese Studies is hosting a Toshiro Mifune 
film festival.  Films will run Friday at 7 pm, Lorch Hall, beginning
Friday July 17 and continuing for six weeks.  Of particular 
interest to me is:
  RASHOMON: July 24:  1951 Academy Award, Best Foreign Film 
    -- one of those classics which I have never gotten around to seeing
  THE SEVEN SAMURAI:  July 31:  1954 Academy Award, Best Foreign Film
    -- an old favorite, one I want to drag my wife to see, though 
       she'll probably complain about how violent and macho it is.
       It's as long as "Titanic," so I hope Lorch Hall is air conditioned.
The Mifune film series is free.
coyote
response 70 of 290: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 04:48 UTC 1998

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