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other
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response 450 of 467:
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Jan 29 07:09 UTC 2005 |
Actually the difference is that when you act like an asshole, you
shouldn't be surprised when you get treated like an asshole.
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remmers
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response 451 of 467:
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Jan 29 13:46 UTC 2005 |
If you want a quick resolution of this, I don't see how a vote would help.
A vote proposal would probably delay a decision more than just discussing
it here. Have a look at the voting timelines specified in the bylaws. Not
to mention that a proposal doesn't guarantee that there will even be a vote,
since a certain percentage of endorsements is needed for a vote to take place.
This is too trivial an issue to subject to that kind of bureaucratic process.
Marc, in an early response, echoes my main issue with really long user id's -
in the context of Grex, to do something with the account (send email, add it
to a list, whatever), you have to type the name. And a long name is harder to
remember and easier to mistype than a short one.
HOWEVER, it remains to be seen whether that concern will really be a problem
in practice. The data Jan entered in #421 is instructive - since the limit
was increased, we've seen a bunch of reasonable id's created with 10 or 12
characters or so, and a few prank accounts by folks who like to test the
limits. Those folks are going to continue to test limits no matter what.
Another downside of a vote at this time would be that we would be trying
to solve a problem before we even know the extent of it, or even knowing for
sure if it's a problem; this is almost always a bad idea.
I'd suggest the following, for now: Leave the limits as they are, and
modify the newuser text to recommend that peoople choose id's of no more
than about 12 characters or so, pointing out the advantages of having an
id that's easy to remember and type. If after a few weeks pass, it's
evident that the current limits are a real problem, we can always revisit
the decision.
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other
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response 452 of 467:
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Jan 29 14:42 UTC 2005 |
Good call, remmers.
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arthurp
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response 453 of 467:
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Jan 29 17:52 UTC 2005 |
resp: 451 precisely.
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asddsaasddsaasddsaasddsaasddsa
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response 454 of 467:
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Jan 29 19:05 UTC 2005 |
This loginID, although being thirty characters, is surprisingly easy to
remember, because it is simply asddsa * 5 . One can't say that the length
of a UID is related to the simplicity to remember.
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scholar
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response 455 of 467:
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Jan 29 20:00 UTC 2005 |
Re. 449: He took issue with the usernames themselves, naftee.
No-one's quite sure what he thought of how every single BBS post, including
the ones he made to speak out against posting usernames, necessarily (iff)
includes a username, but oh well.
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naftee
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response 456 of 467:
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Jan 29 23:29 UTC 2005 |
Nononon, he took issue with the USEABLE usernames. Which, I suppose, if a
cracker bothers to read janc's post, could understand that those are useable
usernames and, in the manner of posting /etc/passwd, janc's post constitutes
something which really should be scribbled, by gelinas.
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scholar
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response 457 of 467:
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Jan 29 23:43 UTC 2005 |
I think gelinas should scribble it by first ejaculating on it and then using
the semen as a sort of paste to hold his shaved pubic hair.
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naftee
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response 458 of 467:
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Jan 30 06:34 UTC 2005 |
AND he could try to shave the hard drive of the GreX computer with his razor
in order to remove the information in the response for good, lest it be
un-scribbled. Then he could use the razor on his beard, and replace whatever
he shaved from the hard drive with this copious amount of hair. AND THEN
tsty can have bearded peace again.
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twenex
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response 459 of 467:
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Jan 30 11:29 UTC 2005 |
Oh Brother.
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scholar
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response 460 of 467:
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Jan 31 04:49 UTC 2005 |
http://www.ohbrotherforjesus.org/
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janc
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response 461 of 467:
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Jan 31 16:47 UTC 2005 |
For those few who need things like this explained to them, yes, there is a
difference between posting a selected portion of the passwd file and the whole
password file. The first difference is SIZE, of which little more need be
said. The second difference is RELEVANCE. My posting was not only small,
but served to clarify the topic under discussion by presenting people with
a sample of real date. I carefully stripped out everything irrelevant to
the discussion (several thousand logins eight letters or less, plus uid
numbers, shells and home directories). I sorted the logins by size, and
formatted the data in neat columns, all to make the data readily useful to
people interested in the topic at hand.
I know it's difficult to appreciate these subtilities of social behavior,
like the fact that what is appropriate depends on context, or on small
differences in presentation (if 800KB is small), but that's just the way
life is sometimes. Good luck.
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scholar
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response 462 of 467:
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Jan 31 16:54 UTC 2005 |
If you had been paying attention, Jan, you would know that accounts were
killed for posting VERY SMALL password files that were QUITE RELEVANT.
This is because gelinas WASN"T killing accounts based on size or relevance
of posts.
He was killing them because he thought /etc/passwd files were an inherant risk
to system security.
This is all VERY thoroughly documented.
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naftee
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response 463 of 467:
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Jan 31 21:26 UTC 2005 |
Even /etc/passwd files which were NOT GreX's were scribbled, I believe.
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scholar
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response 464 of 467:
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Feb 1 00:10 UTC 2005 |
That is true.
Even patently FALSE/MADE UP/INVENTED /etc/passwd files were scribbled.
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albaugh
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response 465 of 467:
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Feb 1 22:09 UTC 2005 |
Do the grex bylaws allow a member vote with multiple choices? Or must the
proposal wording be strictly something that can be ajudicated pass or fail?
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remmers
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response 466 of 467:
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Feb 2 13:34 UTC 2005 |
Has to be pass/fail.
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jesuit
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response 467 of 467:
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May 17 02:14 UTC 2006 |
TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE
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