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mynxcat
response 45 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 15:46 UTC 2002

Ok, I'll send in my dues soon.
jmsaul
response 46 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 18:25 UTC 2002

Re #42:  I think there's now a limit as to how many people you can have
         on your board who are under 18.  This came up on M-Net.
remmers
response 47 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 19:00 UTC 2002

That's my recollection too, but I don't remember the details and
can't find the reference.
polytarp
response 48 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 21:51 UTC 2002

It's either two or one.
jmsaul
response 49 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 01:24 UTC 2002

It might just have to be a minority.
remmers
response 50 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 19:42 UTC 2002

A guaranteed minority of minors.  If that's the rule, it's certainly
easy to remember.
aruba
response 51 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 19:57 UTC 2002

Hmmm.  Does that mean less than half a quorum or less than half of the whole
board?
jmsaul
response 52 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 20:07 UTC 2002

It's not only in the statutes, it's referenced somewhere in the M-Net policy
conference over the last six months.  Enjoy.
aruba
response 53 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 20:54 UTC 2002

Enjoy what?
dpc
response 54 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 21:50 UTC 2002

The M-Net Policy Conference.   8-)
remmers
response 55 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 22:39 UTC 2002

I recommend doing a highly focused search.  Hm, maybe that's what
I'll do.
jmsaul
response 56 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 23:35 UTC 2002

That was my way of saying that I'm not planning to do it myself, but I'll
point the way to someone who has more interest than I do in it.
carson
response 57 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 02:16 UTC 2002

(I nominate myself, and accept.)
aruba
response 58 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 05:14 UTC 2002

Cool!  I'd also like to nominate scott.
carson
response 59 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 07:15 UTC 2002

(re: # of minors on a board:  why settle for a tertiary source?)

http://www.michiganlegislature.org/printDocument.asp?objName=mcl-450-2501a&
version=txt

(no more than half the number required for quorum may be underage, and
that's only if the articles of incorporation allow for underage
directors.) 

aruba
response 60 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 14:15 UTC 2002

Thanks Carson.  So I guess at the moment we're still not allowed to have
directors who are under 18?  If I understand correctly, we would have to
amend the articles of incorporation to explicitly allow that.  (Is that
even posible?)
other
response 61 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 17:17 UTC 2002

"Allowed by the bylaws" might mean "not specifically excluded by the 
bylaws," but how do we determine that?
remmers
response 62 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 18:31 UTC 2002

Thanks for the link, Carson.  Here's the entire text:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                NONPROFIT CORPORATION ACT (EXCERPT)
                       Act 162 of 1982
      450.2501a Board of directors; minimum age; requirements. 

Sec. 501a. 

(1) A corporation organized for purposes described in section 501(c)(3) of the
internal revenue code of 1986 may include 1 or more directors on its board who
are 16 or 17 years of age as long as that number does not exceed 1/2 the total
number of directors required for a quorum for the transaction of business. 

(2) If a corporation described in subsection (1) may have more than 1 director
who is 16 or 17 years of age, the corporation shall state in its articles of
incorporation the number of directors who may be 16 or 17 years of age. 

History: Add. 1998, Act 444, Imd. Eff. Dec. 30, 1998 .

2002 Legislative Council, State of Michigan
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It *appears* to me to say that we could have one director age 16 or
17 without explicitly saying so in the Articles of Incorporation, but
that to have more than one, the Articles would have to say how many.

Since a quorum for doing business is five directors, there could
be at most two such board members in any case.
remmers
response 63 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 18:36 UTC 2002

(It also occurs to me that if there were more candidates under 18
running in an election than are allowed to be on the board, this
could complicate the process of deciding who won the election.)
aruba
response 64 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 19:23 UTC 2002

Oh!  Thank you John, I hadn't read it carefully enough.  I agree with your
interpretation - we are allowed to have 1 board member who is 16 or 17,
unless we amend the articles of incorporation (what would we have to do to
accomplish that?) in which case we could have up to 2.
other
response 65 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 20:03 UTC 2002

The amended vote program would explain the nature of the limitation, 
identify the candidates who are under eighteen, and explain that (under 
current bylaws) votes for the second highest ranking minor (in terms of 
vote count) must necessarily be disregarded in seating the new board.

That does NOT mean that votes for that candidate are throwaway, as the 
outcome is undetermined until the votes are counted, nor does it mean 
that voting for more than one minor candidate constitutes throwing away 
votes.
scott
response 66 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 22:33 UTC 2002

Thanks for the nomination, but evenings are too unpredictable for me to make
regular meetings.
mary
response 67 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 23:41 UTC 2002

I'd like to nominate slynne.
slynne
response 68 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 23:58 UTC 2002

I cant because I am refusing to become a member of grex as a form of protest
for the way guests sometimes get treated here. But I definately appreciate
the thought.
mary
response 69 of 176: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 00:30 UTC 2002

Wow.  What do you see as harsh treatment?
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