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aruba
response 42 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 13:16 UTC 1998

Since we went to this machine?  I think the previous machine would take an
hour or so to run "uptime" with a load that high.
arthurp
response 43 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 02:34 UTC 1998

Hm.  That was with a project machine at my place, and with a laptop at 
my place.  The laptop is gone/sold, and the project now has OpenBSD on 
it.  It'll be a while before I get the chance to try NT on it again.  I 
can certainly see why you would avoid IE2.  It's won't even do anything 
while it's downloading a file.  (I was using it to download a real 
browser both times.)
janc
response 44 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 8 02:56 UTC 1998

The "view previous responses" thing has always been at the top of the page.
My rationale was that if I was looking for response 12, i'd probably first
try scrolling back.  If I found that the first response was 16, then I'd look
for a button.  Since I'm probably at the top of the text then, the button
should be at the top of the page.

As for IE2, I think you should sue Microsoft.
aruba
response 45 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 8 14:31 UTC 1998

Pine has gone back to being really slow at resolving groups like "board" and
"baff".  It's as if it isn't using the shadow password database anymore.
aruba
response 46 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 8 14:34 UTC 1998

(What I mean is, when I type "board" at the "To:" line and hit enter, there is
a really long pause while Pine tries to look up "board" like it was a user and
give me a full name.  Eventually it gives up.  That was always slow in the bad
old days, but it has been quite fast for the last year or so.)
cmcgee
response 47 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 14:25 UTC 1998

This isn't a problem, but I dont know how to find the information, so here
goes:
Is there some way, using Grex, that I can find the urls of websites that have
information about <topic>?  I wanted to find something about the acidity of
different types of coffee beans, and realized that lynx will only take me
there if I know where there is.  

Can I do by dialing in to Grex, or do I have to go to the library and use
their web browsing software?
rcurl
response 48 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 14:52 UTC 1998

You can use lynx to access web search engines. One is AltaVista at
http://www.altavista.digital.com/

srw
response 49 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 18:01 UTC 1998

Yup. Go there in lynx, type in your query into the form, and you will 
receive a list of "hits" from their database. If you like AltaVista, put 
it in your bookmarks file in Lynx. ("a" command) then you can easily get 
to it with the "v" command.

Another kind of place to try altogether is http://yahoo.com/ It is not a 
search index, but rather a topical hierarchy, but you can search it.
It's better for some things, worse for others. I go there first, and if 
it is not successful, then I use Altavista.

(all from lynx, of course)
mta
response 50 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 18:19 UTC 1998

 http://metacrawler.com/  will search several engines at once for you, too.
mta
response 51 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 18:21 UTC 1998

Mke that: http://www.metacrawler.com/
tsty
response 52 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 18:55 UTC 1998

ummmm    bbs auction     Failed security checkpoint?   ?! huh !?
...adn i donated stuff, too. 
tsty
response 53 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 18:56 UTC 1998

oh, ... adn     www.search.com    has a pretty good engine.
mta
response 54 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 19:14 UTC 1998

The failed security checkpoint is because the Auction conference is not yet
open to the public.  (It happened to me, too.)
atticus
response 55 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 19:26 UTC 1998

(re #49: Yahoo also has a search facility -- I think it uses AltaVista 
as the search engine)
keesan
response 56 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 21:49 UTC 1998

To use Altavista to find websites with certain words in them, go down until
you hit the blank line, then enter any word you are interested int with a +
in front of it, and if you are interested in a phrase put " " around the
phrase'.    For instance, on the underline enter:

+"coffee bean" +"low acidity" +roasted   then hit return twice to submit the
query, and use the down arrow to go to each successive item in the list, and
the return key to look at it.  THere are help instructions around, too.  To
finf the place in a website with the word you are after, type w, and then fill
in the word, and return.
valerie
response 57 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 15:13 UTC 1998

This response has been erased.

davel
response 58 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 15:49 UTC 1998

Re 57 re 37: possibly someone should do something about that?
keesan
response 59 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 16:57 UTC 1998

Does that mean that I cannot 'talk' with someone who is using the menu shell
unless I go to the menu and run 'chat'?  I was again unable to 'talk' with
someone who was sending me telegrams, we finally gave up.  (One problem was
that he sent me the telegram 'talk keesan', but I told him to do the same
thing as for telegram except substitute 'talk' for 'tel', which would not have
worked if he was in menu).  Could we have an item for asking dumb questions
about how to use grex, rather than using this one or having everyone ask the
same questions over and over again of the helpers?  This might also encourage
new users to ask questions.  If nobody else starts the item I may.
aruba
response 60 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 17:19 UTC 1998

Re #57:  I haven't noticed Pine being slow about resolving aliases lately, so
maybe it was just one of those slow periods when I noticed it.  (Though it did
happen more than once.)  Sorry for the false alarm.
senna
response 61 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 19:00 UTC 1998

Grex is up to its old tricks of letter displacement in cooperation with 
lag (I'll type something out in party, the line will be lagged, and a 
random letter from the middle of the statement will be transposed to the 
beginning).  Also, I'll occasionally type something fairly quickly, 
which will refuse to echo until I type something else later.  Thus, I 
could type "!tel valerie," type "Hi!  How are you doing?" and have it 
displayed nicely in party when I type the letter i or something five 
minutes later.  These problems occur in telnet only.  My only problem 
when I dial in is severe random text echo loss.  Still :)
i
response 62 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 23:38 UTC 1998

Interesting.  I've experienced what seem to be occasional noisy lines
at grex's end.  (I dial, then hang up fast when i hear a really staticy
ring sound, then redial and connect quickly after hearing a good, clear
ring.  Things occasionally go downhill fast later, though - usually the
keyboard echo stops, and my modem starts flashing "retraining" - often 
the connection come back a few times before finally dying.)
scg
response 63 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 04:46 UTC 1998

The ring sound, on standard Ameritech POTS lines, is generated by something
in the phone switch, before it actually gets onto Grex's lines.  If you're
hearing a really scratchy ring sound, I don't think that's a line noise
problem at Grex's end.
valerie
response 64 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 18:45 UTC 1998

This response has been erased.

other
response 65 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 22:59 UTC 1998

i went through the telnet queue several times today, and each time, the
session would hang and die either at 1, or 0 or right after asking for a
password.  it was really bizarre.  i disconnected and dialed into grex
directly and did not notice any severe or unusual load conditions.
any ideas what happened?
rcurl
response 66 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 05:25 UTC 1998

That didn't happen to me, but I did log in, saw the motd etc, and then
it gave me another login prompt.
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