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debra
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response 40 of 89:
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Sep 26 13:16 UTC 1994 |
hello everyone out there in cyberspace. i've been out of school for some time
now, and doing the mothering thing but my political science/history background
keeps my mind busy. It was worth however many thousands of bucks it cost me.
I've been doing some thinking about imperialism lately. Have you ever read the
original Babar The Elephant King books? (as a mom I am now looking for
relevance in children's literature). Notice how Babar, a perfectly normal
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rcurl
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response 41 of 89:
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Sep 26 13:28 UTC 1994 |
I hope you're OK now. Yes, I've read the Babar books, also because of
having children. So, what's with imperialism, in Babar-land?
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debra
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response 42 of 89:
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Sep 26 14:19 UTC 1994 |
o.k., I'm o.k. now...I'm new at this, so thank for your patience.
anyway, Babar dresses and acts like a human (Westerner) so the
other elephants crown him king. Then he goes on to build
"Celesteville"--with little bungalows in little straight rows
(ala the Europeans in their colonies in Africa, India, etc.)
So was Laurent de Brunhoff pro or anti imperialist? These are
things I think about while nursing my baby, making lasagne, etc.
Good stuff, this history, any thoughts from any of you out there?
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rcurl
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response 43 of 89:
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Sep 26 14:37 UTC 1994 |
I didn't read any cynicism or sarcasm into the stories, so I'd have
to take the stories at face value, but not necessarily "imperialism".
Why can't Babar just learn other ways, and implement them? No one
was forcing him to (as I recall). [By the way, have you sorted out
how to respond to a "talk" when you're in the middle of something?]
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lsee
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response 44 of 89:
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Feb 9 04:47 UTC 1995 |
I would like to discuss Civil War history? Is there anyone else?
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mwarner
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response 45 of 89:
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Feb 9 05:00 UTC 1995 |
You should enter an item. The last book about the civil war I read was
called "Lincoln at Gettysburg", a detailed description of the cultural
and personal foundations of the Gettysburg address.
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carson
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response 46 of 89:
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Feb 9 08:09 UTC 1995 |
The Civil War fascinated me in grade school. I'm not nearly as up on it
right now, but I wouldn't mind trying.
oh, lsee, if you don't mind my asking: why are you so eager to
discuss the Civil War, of all things?
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lsee
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response 47 of 89:
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Feb 10 05:06 UTC 1995 |
Carson and Mike-I am a Civil WAr reenactor and am interested in seing if there
are others out there who do this thing. Have some esp. experience i n the
field.. (literally). Interested in continuing--Civil War history--all
fields--let's give it a go.
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remmers
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response 48 of 89:
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Feb 10 11:03 UTC 1995 |
The way to give it a go is to enter an item about it. Type "enter" at
the Ok prompt.
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lsee
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response 49 of 89:
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Feb 11 04:33 UTC 1995 |
will do--thanks
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groble
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response 50 of 89:
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Mar 24 06:41 UTC 1995 |
re:Babar musing: Edward Said would *love* your observation. John M
MacKenzie would love it more. What's the publication date on those books?
It could tell you a lot about it. The author may or may not have been
pro- or anti-imperialist, but imperialism still shapes the views that
emerge in a book, even a children's book (MacKenzie would posit:
*especially* in a children's book!)
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volt
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response 51 of 89:
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Apr 17 03:52 UTC 1995 |
I sugest for anyone interested in the imperial roman empire the book
"The First Man In Rome" it is a master piece of literature.
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rcurl
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response 52 of 89:
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Apr 17 06:07 UTC 1995 |
I would add a recommendation of Gibbons' _Decline and Fall of the
Roman Empire_, even if from an earlier scholarship.
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bischof
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response 53 of 89:
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May 6 19:26 UTC 1995 |
I'm currently working on my master's in German literature, but my
thesis has a lot to do with how accurately some documentary works
portray historical events (more specifically, what the Church did
or did not do during the Third Reich). Sound like an interesting topic
to anyone?
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mwarner
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response 54 of 89:
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May 7 01:41 UTC 1995 |
Specifically that topic: Yes it sounds interesting. Also interesting
is the insight you may have into the different influences on the way
history is recorded in general gained through your work. I think there
will always be a significant difference between a compressed, or
comprehensive, history and the facts as gained through detailed study of a
certain event or set of circumstances. I've learned that a final "truth"
or ultimate telling of a history is an illusory goal, but the insights
gained in the consideration of the fine details of history are well worth
their pursuit.
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baldar
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response 55 of 89:
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May 19 17:15 UTC 1995 |
For anyone interested in Imperial Rome, but does not want something too heavy,
try _I, Claudius_, or _Claudius the God_ by Robert Graves. They are both
fiction, but they are well researched, and the give a good impression of what
the times were like.
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kerouac
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response 56 of 89:
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Aug 21 21:57 UTC 1995 |
Is anyone interested in this conf anymore? I was a history major in
school as well and I think the number of historical topics, such as
the debate over the atomic bomb, belie the current condition of this
conf. I'd love to see this conf become active again. Maybe it
just needs a jump-start!
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rcurl
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response 57 of 89:
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Aug 21 22:01 UTC 1995 |
OK. Go ahead, and plug it in and throw the switch!
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remmers
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response 58 of 89:
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Aug 22 12:39 UTC 1995 |
Right--the way to revive a slow conference is to start entering
stuff in it.
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rcurl
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response 59 of 89:
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Aug 22 20:40 UTC 1995 |
Like this: someday it will be history.
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anne
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response 60 of 89:
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Aug 25 06:55 UTC 1995 |
Kerouac- what area of history did you study? (I'm thinking that
there was one area that interested you more then others...)
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kerouac
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response 61 of 89:
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Aug 25 16:11 UTC 1995 |
My particular area was contemporary american history. I did my
senior thesis on certain elements of the watergate scandal. What
area did you think interested me?
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srw
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response 62 of 89:
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Aug 26 02:58 UTC 1995 |
My mind recognizes Watergate as history, but my heart wants to think of
"history" as that which happened before I was born, like the
Battle of Bull Run.
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anne
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response 63 of 89:
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Aug 27 17:38 UTC 1995 |
Kerouac- I guess I had better explain myself a little clearer. I was
trying to say that because history is such a huge subject- people
generally study one area in particular. I wasn't saying that I had an
area in mind tha tI thought you studied. :)
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sreedhar
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response 64 of 89:
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Jan 15 21:11 UTC 1998 |
exit
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