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(<PRE>> The shell doesn't support running party, tel, write, fronttalk, or picospan,\n> and thus, new users have essentially no access to party or the conferences.\n\nWhat *do* they have access to, then, that would be attractive or interesting\nto new users?\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>At present? Not a lot. You can play with it yourself by running\n"resh" at the shell prompt and typing "help." There are a number\nof easter eggs in it; see if you can find them.\n\nThat said, bear in mind that I said that this is very much a work\nin progress; what's there now is not the end-all-be-all of new\naccess for new users. The idea is to relax things a bit over time\nas we identify more stuff that people are interested in. For\ninstance, adding a read-only interface to BBS and party, or perhaps\nadding some sort of throttled write access \(e.g., a new user can\nonly post $n$ many times in a day, or once every $m$ minutes, with\nsome sort of exponential backoff if that's grossly exceeded\).\n\nBy the way: the list you quoted does not include the things that\nthe vast, vast majority of grex *users* are interested in: those\nbeing the C compiler, various lanaguge interpreters, and general\naccess to the Unix shell.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>i thank cross for takinghte stop-gap measures he did.\n \nadn these changes are certainly a work in progress ... just as\ngrex is a work in progress.\n \nther was discussion of re-energizing someting called porters that\n\(hope i hae this right\) provides a sort of filter/approval mecdhanism\nnot too diferent from the scaling-up of opportunities to use grex.\n \ncmcgee, attendee by phone, came up with this idea a whiloe ago and\niirc, it almost made it into operatoin then. \n\n \nsince ther is a move afoot to open conferenicing to readable status\nfor grex new users, grexis making qualty progress on several \nfromts, imnsho.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>If you're interested in the porters stuff, have a look at item 407\nin coop13; that's the original proposal. Colleen took it and ran\nwith it and did great things in taking a very rough proposal and\ntransforming it into something useful and usable and getting it\nthrough the board. The results of her efforts are here in this\ncoop.\n\nThe basic idea is to separate access to Grex into three strata: the\ninitial, very limited level of access which borders on almost no\naccess at all. The next level up is a less-restricted-but-not-total\nkind of access that let's a \(relatively\) new user send and receive\nemail, have a web page, etc. The final level is validated access,\nwhere you've no-kidding proven your identity to Grex and we basically\ngive you complete access to the machine and all of the software.\nThat level is the same as for all members \(past and present\).\n\nThe porters \(btw: the name is a Shakespeare reference; Macbeth Act\n2 Scene 3\) are a group of volunteers, themselves verified users,\nwho volunteer to screen new users for movement from the lowest level\nof access to the next-highest level of access. At the board meeting,\nthere was some talk of them also being able to bump people down in\nthe case of an attack; I don't recall that this was part of the\noriginal proposal, and might be worthy of a bit more discussion.\n\nBtw: resh has a `porter' easter egg in it. See if you can find it.\nThere, I've given you the clue.\n</PRE>\n)
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