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mta
response 38 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 12 11:00 UTC 2002

I think that would depend entirely on the recipe.  For a meat dish, a very
small amount of wine vinegar might work, but for a dessert, it would be
disasterous.

It would depend, too, on the reason for avoiding the wine.  If it's to avoid
the alcohol, either vinegar or grape juice would work, but if it's because
of allergy, both would be a disaster.

slynne
response 39 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 12 20:36 UTC 2002

unless one was substituting cider vinegar or apple juice for the grape 
based item if one was allergic to grapes. 
mta
response 40 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 12 21:44 UTC 2002

Ahh, good point.  But I don't know that cider vinegar would have at all the
right effect ... but rice vinegar might.  (Less overpowering taste.)
keesan
response 41 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 13 01:41 UTC 2002

Cooked wine loses its alcohol.
glenda
response 42 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 13 03:26 UTC 2002

Cooked wine does not lose ALL its alcohol.  How much is lost depends on the
wine, the dish, the heat reached, and how long that heat is maintained.

I have a friend that is terribly allergic to alcohol in any form.  She was
told that it was safe to eat dishes with wine/beer if they had been cooked.
She did not enjoy the trip to the hospital when she proved them wrong.

A small amount remains even after cooking!
void
response 43 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 00:47 UTC 2002

   In my case, it's not an allergy.  I've been sober for 13 years and
prefer not to keep drinkable alcohol in my abode.  Occasional cooking
with wine makes the food yummy and doesn't give me any desire to drink,
but there is nowhere to buy wine in the comparatively small amounts
needed for recipes. 
orinoco
response 44 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 03:13 UTC 2002

I suppose you could go in with a friend on buying a bottle of wine, use what
you need, and let your friend keep the bottle.  But that's a social solution,
not a cooking solution, and this is the cooking conference...
mta
response 45 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 15:59 UTC 2002

Vois, many liquor stores do sell the little sample sizes of wines.  I'll look
around and see what I can find.  The varieties are limited, but it might work
out.
cmcgee
response 46 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 17:13 UTC 2002

Sample sizes of wine?  I've seen liquor minis, and I've seen what I call
picnic six-packs (two-serving bottles), but I've never seen anything
smaller than a split sold as a single item.  
mta
response 47 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 19:32 UTC 2002

Hmmm, I haven't looked lately, but I used to see airline sized bottles
available near the checkout.

I'll peek again before I say much more; it's possibel that it was a fad whose
time has passed.
keesan
response 48 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 15 13:48 UTC 2002

I suspect your friend was not allergic to alcohol but to products of
fermentation which are found in alcoholic beverages.
Is the friend also allergic to some cheeses, or sauerkraut, or chocolate, or
miso or soy sauce?
glenda
response 49 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 15 14:59 UTC 2002

She is allergic to alcohol.  Any liquid medication has to be approved by her
doctor as they don't always say on the bottle.  Most flavoring extracts can't
be used, i.e. she has to use the actual vanilla bean or water extracted
flavorings which are hard to find and not as good as alcohol extracted ones.

I would not have said she was allergic to alcohol if it had been something
else.  Having a lot of allergies myself, I do know the differences.
orinoco
response 50 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 17 02:08 UTC 2002

(I knew someone once with the same allergy.  She had no other food
restrictions: cheese and chocolate, in particular, I remember her having no
problem with.  It really does seem to have been the alcohol itself that got
to her.)
slynne
response 51 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 17 18:34 UTC 2002

I think I am allergic to alcohol too. If I have more than 10 drinks or 
so, I get a horrible reaction indeed. First I turn into an asshole and 
then I puke on everyone. 
jaklumen
response 52 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 10:12 UTC 2002

hahahaha!!
i
response 53 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 20 00:37 UTC 2002

Re: #37 - Calvados
scott
response 54 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 13:20 UTC 2002

Regarding meads, at a club ( http://www.northstatebrewers.org ) brew
Thursday one of the guys brought a spiced mead he'd recently done.  Wow!  I'm
getting the recipe for that puppy.
keesan
response 55 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 09:50 UTC 2002

There is a difference between being allergic to a food (a very small amount
causes a reaction) and being unable to detoxify a food.  Some people are
better at detoxifying alcohol.  Allergens are more likely to be proteins,
which the body interprets as something infectious.  I have never heard of an
allergy to a simple molecule like ethyl alcohol.  Not sure what it is about
tomatoes that bothers some people, but it is the proteins in eggs and grains
that are allergenic.  Lactose intolerance is the inability to break down
lactose into something digestible by the body.
i
response 56 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 12:41 UTC 2002

Inability to detoxify alcohol would not prevent one from using standard
vanilla flavoring, one would not even know that one had.  The fact that
most allergies are to proteins won't help the person with the alcohol
allergy, any more than the fact that most kids can eat peanut butter
sandwiches will save the life of the kid with peanut allergy.
denise
response 57 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 10 01:36 UTC 2007

As I mentioned in another item recently, I tend to enjoy alcoholic 
drinks more in the summer/warmer weather than in the colder weather. 
Why, I'm not sure, since drinking seemingly makes one feel warmer; not 
necessarily a desired effect on hot days.  But anyway, that's just the 
way I am...

I do enjoy an occasional beer, though some kinds better than others. 
And I don't like dark beers at all.  White wines can be nice, the reds 
I'm allergic to [maybe to the tannins or something].

Overall, though, I've always preferred various mixed drinks. Many of 
the ones I enjoy are the fruity kinds.  But other types, too, including 
stuff with rum [coke and rum is one of my earliest recollections 
besides beer], long island iced tea, bailey's irish cream, margaritas, 
a good whiskey, etc.  If I remember right, I don't like gin and tonic 
and have never tried a martini.  

What kind of drinks do the rest of you enjoy? Do you drink different 
things in the summer than the rest of the year?  Do you have any good 
drink recipes to try?
furs
response 58 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 10 11:08 UTC 2007

I don't drink much anymore, mostly cause I don't like to waste the
calories.  But I enjoy a good beer once in a while, but my favorite
drinks are a regular margarita on the rocks or a good vodka on the rocks
with a splash of lime juice.
mary
response 59 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 10 12:49 UTC 2007

This thread has reminded me of whiskey slushes. I was exposed to this 
concoction while living in central Pennsylvania many years ago.  It tastes 
oh so light and refreshing then you realize you can't get up. A batch of 
slush is kept in the freezer and you simply scrape some into a glass and 
top it with your favorite mixer (diet squirt works great).  I'll dig up 
the recipe and post it later.  Heck, I'll make up a batch! 
slynne
response 60 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 10 14:20 UTC 2007

Hehe. That reminds me of a mojito story. Last summer, my brother made
some mojitos for a family gathering. His recipe calls for soda water to
be added but we didnt have any soda water so he substituted MORE RUM for
the soda water. They were still oh so light and refreshing until you
realized you were shit faced!

Anyways, I've noticed that Mojitos are getting quite popular these days
which is fine by me because they are a very nice summer drink. I dont
know my brother's exact recipe but it is pretty similar to this one:

3 fresh mint sprigs
2 tsp sugar
3 tbsp fresh lime juice
1 1/2 oz light rum
club soda

In a tall thin glass, crush part of the mint with a fork to coat the
inside. Add the sugar and lime juice and stir thoroughly. Top with ice.
Add rum and mix. Top off with *chilled* club soda (or seltzer). Add a
lime slice and the remaining mint, and serve.



I cant wait to find out what a whiskey slush is. 
tod
response 61 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 10 14:26 UTC 2007

re #58
How many calories do you intake per day?
furs
response 62 of 74: Mark Unseen   Jun 10 15:37 UTC 2007

while in training between 1800 - 2000
not training, probably more like 1500-1700
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