Grex Agora Conference Item 21

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Done. Take a look.

But does that imply that the gopher server will try to stat(2) a subdirectory
of *every* user home directory on Grex each time someone fetches that page?

I looked at the source code and that's exactly what it does.

However, at the moment it doesn't appear to be an issue in terms of either
performance or resource consumption. Let's leave it for now. If it becomes
an issue later on down the road, we can revisit.

Looks good. Thanks, cross.

I've contacted Cameron Kaiser about adding grex.org to his list of Gopher
servers for spidering by the Veronica-2 search engine.

Grex is now on the Floodgap New Gopher Servers list:

  gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/new

This will trigger a visit from the Veronica-2 indexing robot within a couple
of days. After that, Grex gopherspace content will show up in Veronica
searches:

  gopher://gopher.floodgap.com:70/7/v2/vs

resp:33

> I'd be slightly more enthusiastic about a low-markup set of static
> blog web  sites, to be totally honest. Gopher as a protocol is a lot
> less interesting. A  gopher-style thing via HTTP, with minimalist
> content (a la Markdown) that's  directly interpreted in lieu of HTML
> is a lot more interesting.

I try to envision what you're imagining and keep seeing something a lot 
like the original WikiWikiWeb (http://wiki.c2.com/?WikiWikiWeb). The 
only Gopher-like things the original wiki doesn't do is a subdirectory 
tree and automatically-generated navigation pages.

resp:41

It looks like we have been visited. Grex Gopherspace content is now 
searchable with Veronica-2!

Actually, I'm thinking more like markdown documents, where the various
formatting metacharacters get translated into bolding or highlighting,
and hyperlinks work. That's it. Think Jekyll but without the jekyll part.

I'm changing my font to amber with black background and modem sound
effects

A good choice, though I've always been partial to phosphor green.

#18 that's really cool!

I think the question on everyone's mind is "Does the <blink> tag work
again?"

One can only hope not.

It's between you and your browser.

thanks @cross for humoring us, we'll impress you yet! also thanks papa,
jandal, others for the tutorials. i've only ever really used gopher for easy
phlogging, it's really cool to see what's possible. and - what with us having
done so many things to the web etc - i'm sure we'll come up with some
interesting as-yet-undone or at least -uncommon things that are possible with
gopher! so far ~nydel/public_gopher just contains an empty phlog (entitled
"let's all flog thing!" in esperanto - as the log will be - about to figure
out whether i can use my esperanto keyboard or if i will need to use the
still-fine x-system. really excited about this (and about us just doing new
stuff on the system in general)

Check out the latest developments in Grex Gopherspace:

        ~papa/public_gopher/pgphlog/20170611-the_daily_batch.txt

Check it out!

Gophermeisters, update your gopherholes ever day!

my apologies to misfile this, but i cannot seem to figure out how to create
an original topic in agora!

i use commonlisp (sbcl) a lot and want to do some small scripting things in
the language here locally. emacs and sbcl are already installed, would it be
much trouble to install slime (superior lisp mode for emacs) here systemwide?

again apologies to put this in wrong thread (although some of the things i
plan to try with commonlisp here involve gopher!) & i will follow any advice
on agorabbs protocol given. thanking you kindly!

nydel, the bbs command to start a new item is 'enter'.

resp:53 in this day and age, there's not much point to installing emacs
packages globally. Just use package.el and melpa/elpa/whatever the kids
are using these days and install SLIME that way. You'll probably also
want paredit while you're at it...

e for short

For those of you who do not follow the Gopher mailing list (joining which is
currently problematic), a discussion has started on the list's future,
including choosing a new moderator, a new host for the list, or changing the
list to a different medium like Usenet group, IRC, ...

If you are concerned, it might be worth your while to read up on the
discussion in the ML archive, then e-mail one of the participants if you want
to make a comment.

Is Usenet still around?

It is.

resp:57

The Gopher Project mailing list information page is here:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project

... and the list archive is supposed to be here:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general

... but getting to the archived messages seems to be problematic, too. :(

Is anyone not already on the list interested in the referenced discussion on
the list's future? I could cut-and-paste and post a log of the discussion so
far.

Sure, I'd enjoy a read

resp:61
OK --> gopher://grex.org/1/~papa/gopherml

Diverging into three threads, this discussion has generated more ML traffic
in three days than the ML has seen on all subjects in a year.

I have just dumped the raw e-mail files so you will have to page through
headers, quoted text, and sometimes HTML, but the whole story is in there if
you're interested.

If you want to add to the discussion, I suggest you send e-mail directly 
to one of the members already participating and ask them to post to the 
list on your behalf. (Unfortunately, though I am registered on the list 
with two e-mail addresses, I cannot post to the list from either of 
them.)