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mcnally
response 38 of 59: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 19:34 UTC 2006

 Well, you must've remapped it then..  :-p
naftee
response 39 of 59: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 21:54 UTC 2006

poof
remmers
response 40 of 59: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 21:31 UTC 2006

Re #38:  Nope, control-Z is the DEEfault.

I should mention that another reason I use emacs these days is that by
installing the nxml plugin, you get the world's greatest XML (and hence
XHTML) editor.  Color syntax highlighting, on-the-fly well-formedness
checking -- and if you've specified a RelaxNG schema, it checks schema
conformance on the fly too.  Awesome!
mcnally
response 41 of 59: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 22:43 UTC 2006

 re #40:
 > Nope, control-Z is the DEEfault.

 Aha!  Proof of a sinister conspiracy by the authors to render their 
 editor invulnerable to job control, thus preventing their hapless
 victims from suspending the emacs process.  Eeeeeevil!     :-p
fudge
response 42 of 59: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 10:22 UTC 2006

I already pepper my files with ":w" 's when in gui editors... if I started
using something like emacs I'd be f**ked
remmers
response 43 of 59: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 14:11 UTC 2006

Re #41: When ctrl-z is bound to vi mode switching, you can suspend emacs
by typing ctrl-x ctrl-z.

Re #42: Emacs' file-save command is ctrl-x ctrl-s, which is easier to
type than vi's :w.
twenex
response 44 of 59: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 14:12 UTC 2006

<twenex raises one eyebrow>
fudge
response 45 of 59: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 14:35 UTC 2006

hmm yeah but most of those key presses could do something potentially much
more nasty than putting a ":w" in a file, given that most control-##
combinations are mapped to commonly used functionality like copy/cut/paste,
undo, print... maybe 15 years ago, but today, I'm quite reluctant to embrace
an app that works completely different from the rest of the OS/Desktop/apps
gull
response 46 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 00:30 UTC 2006

I don't like vi for that reason.  The modal design is too different 
from every other app I use. 
kingjon
response 47 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 00:58 UTC 2006

I *like* vi for that reason. Every other application requires me to move my
fingers too far. 

marcvh
response 48 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 03:32 UTC 2006

Re #46: that's just because you don't use rogue (or hack or nethack)
gull
response 49 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 22:21 UTC 2006

Re resp:47: I dunno.  The Esc key is way up there in the corner. 
kingjon
response 50 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 22:47 UTC 2006

Re #49: Sometimes I hit control-[ instead. I know that I often hit control-H
instead of backspace (but that's because Grex thinks it *is* my backspace, when
my backspace key actually sends control-?).

remmers
response 51 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 23:04 UTC 2006

Vi is definitely hand and finger friendly.  (You can change grex's
concept of what your backspace is, by the way...)
kingjon
response 52 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 23:13 UTC 2006

Yes, but if I'm direct-dialed or sshed in from a Windows SSH client it *is*
control-H. I've asked before if there's a way to tell when I'm logging in which
it is.

gull
response 53 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 02:05 UTC 2006

My favorite text-based editors are the ones that use WordStar 
keystrokes, just because WordStar was the first wordprocessor I learned 
to use. 
kingjon
response 54 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 03:07 UTC 2006

MS-DOS Edit was the first word processor I learned to use, but it didn't have
many special keystrokes. After that I went to WordPerfect for DOS (4.1? 5.1?),
and then when we got a computer with Windows (3.1) I used Wordperfect for that,
which erased the old habits because it had all the functions switched around. 

naftee
response 55 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 04:00 UTC 2006

MS-DOS Edit sucks balls compared to PC-DOS's E editor.  I like that editor!
twenex
response 56 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 13:24 UTC 2006

vi is the first editor I've (had to) learn keystrokes for.

Or was that MicroEMACS for the Amiga? If it was, they didn't stick.
albaugh
response 57 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 21:01 UTC 2006

Being ignorant of other options, I have always used:

:!vi file2
gull
response 58 of 59: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 01:11 UTC 2006

I learned how to use EDIT at one point, too.  When I later found out 
about ed, EDIT's odd syntax made more sense. 
wilt
response 59 of 59: Mark Unseen   May 16 23:52 UTC 2006

HACKED BY GNAA LOL JEWS DID WTC LOL
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