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micklpkl
response 36 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 15:43 UTC 2003

My worst fears with regards to Pepper's weight problem were realised 
yesterday --- the vet diagnosed him as having hepatitic lipidosis (see 
scott's resp:9 above). We're not certain of the cause, but he stopped 
eating totally, for a couple of days last week. This was enough to 
start the syndrome. Since then, his appetite has not been the same. The 
vet says that the blood work conforms the diagnosis, and didn't think a 
liver biopsy was necessary, even though no strong signs of jaundice 
were observed.

We're trying to get him eating --- the vet prescribed the Science Diet 
a/d (ultra-rich wet food) along with a pill that is meant to increase 
his appetite (I can't remember what it's called, but it's usually given 
for nausea). He has a follow-up visit scheduled for next Thursday. I 
really hope he starts eating by himself. It's the only way to reverse 
the disease, and the next step is insertion of a feeding tube and force-
feeding.
scott
response 37 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 16:11 UTC 2003

Ouch - sorry to hear that.
micklpkl
response 38 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 16:23 UTC 2003

Thanks, scott. I'm trying to remain hopeful, since there is a 60% 
recovery rate, even if a feeding tube is required.
mynxcat
response 39 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 16:34 UTC 2003

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mooncat
response 40 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 19 17:08 UTC 2003

Mickey- not a good diagnosis- but at least there is that 60% rate. 
Best of luck with Pepper. At Zimmer many of the cats initially refuse 
to eat on their own (basically depression from having lost everything 
that is familiar) and Kitty Zimmer generally ends up doing syringe 
feeding- which I'm thinking is a bit kinder than a feeding tube 
inserted. Maybe talk to your vet about it?
slynne
response 41 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 20:57 UTC 2003

Oh man. I remember when furs's cat ran away and was gone for a month. 
She came back all skinny and jaundiced. She had hepatitic lipidosis and 
wouldnt eat. The vet put a hole in her neck and ran a tube to her 
stomach. We had to feed her every couple of hours through that tube 
plus give her water because she wasnt eating or drinking. The food was 
some kind of canned science diet mixed with vegetable oil. It was a a 
yucky job for sure. The good news is that the cat recovered fully!

micklpkl
response 42 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 21:18 UTC 2003

mynxcat, mooncat, slynne - Thanks for the words of support.

It has been really tough having a sick cat, but things are not as bad 
as they could be --- at least Pepper is drinking water on his own. 
Yesterday, he began to show some interest in eating. I saw him eat a 
few bites of dry catfood, and he ate several treats (I was trying 
anything to get him interested in eating). Then finally there was some 
measure of success with the canned Science Diet a/d ... he ate about 2 
teaspoonsful last night. This morning he woke me up in the usual 
manner, purring and rubbing against my neck, and ate almost all of the 
1/8 cup of dry food I put down for him. I got him to eat 4 spoonsful of 
the canned food at lunch. So, there is some hope that he's recovering.
mynxcat
response 43 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 21:48 UTC 2003

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glenda
response 44 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 23:50 UTC 2003

Way to go, Pepper!
slynne
response 45 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 16:54 UTC 2003

That's great that he is eating on his own! 
micklpkl
response 46 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 20:16 UTC 2003

Yes, it is a relief. I'll still be concerned until this Thursday, when 
the vet gives Pepper another set of blood tests. He's eating, but not 
much at all. Is it enough? We won't know for another couple of days.

Thanks again to everyone for their responses. 
mooncat
response 47 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 23 15:04 UTC 2003

Mickey- that sounds like an excellent start! Best of luck and good 
thoughts to you and Pepper! And you'd BETTER come back in here and post 
as soon as you have results from Thursday! :)
micklpkl
response 48 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 14:14 UTC 2003

Apologies for taking so long posting these results. I really appreciate 
all the words of support and the information posted in this item.

Pepper went to the vet for bloodwork this past Tuesday (we went on 
Thursday, as well, only to find the doctor out of the office. Sigh...)

There was some good news --- tests for two of the liver enzymes were 
lower this time, and one of those tests was in the "reference range." 
Confusingly, the other liver test came back even higher than the first 
time.

TEST      7/17     7/29      Ref. Range

ALKP       449      516         14-111
ALT        188       93         12-130
TBIL      3.69     1.14         0.00-0.90

So, the first test (ALKP) is still high, and even higher than it was on 
the first test. The vet said this enzyme is "slow to react" and usually 
lags behind the rest, so I'm hoping this is to be expected. Great news 
on the second test element, though --- ALT is within range, now! And 
the last, TBIL, is much lower, and nearing the normal range.

The vet seemed encouraged by the results, and said as long as we could 
get Pepper to eat, he should be well soon. He wants to do another set 
of blood tests in a month, assuming his appetite continues the way it 
has been. I've been able to get Pepper to start eating some chewy 
treats, but he still doesn't seem interested in anything crunchy. The 
vet said the jaw muscles are probably weak --- his teeth and gums 
appear fine (gums were a little pale, from the liver problems, though).

glenda
response 49 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 15:22 UTC 2003

Good going, Pepper.  Such a good boy.
mynxcat
response 50 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 15:44 UTC 2003

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micklpkl
response 51 of 66: Mark Unseen   Jul 31 15:53 UTC 2003

Pepper has never really eaten anything except for dry food. When this 
was first diagnosed, the vet prescribed some ultra-rich wet food, and 
while he will eat a couple of spoonsful, he doesn't appear to really 
like it. When I got the chewy treats the other night, I bought some 
different flavours of "Fancy Feast" and he really dug into the chicken 
flavour last night. So, yay, Pepper. :)
mooncat
response 52 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 17:52 UTC 2003

Excellent! Good going Pepper!!

Another Zimmer comment... there was a cat there (currently being 
fostered) who really preferred dry food to wet, but given his health 
they wanted to restrict him to wet food. Anyhow, long story short- in 
small amounts they would give him the dry food- except they would add 
water to it so that it was softer. Dunno if this would work for Pepper, 
or if it's something his vet would recommend, but it might be worth a 
try.
micklpkl
response 53 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 19:52 UTC 2003

Another excellent suggestion, mooncat. Thanks; I'll try that. 
mooncat
response 54 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 02:26 UTC 2003

Soo.... What news??
micklpkl
response 55 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 18:34 UTC 2003

sadly, none of it's good news. Pepper is currently in the hospital, 
getting aggressive IV treatment. I don't feel sane enough to explain 
everything that's happened in the past 20 days, but I'll just say it 
was a very slow improvement in his appetite, which doesn't appear to 
have been enough. It appears, from a 2nd veterinary opinion, that there 
was a pretty severe primary condition (hyperthyroidism) which my 
regular vet had never thought to diagnose --- we're still waiting on 
the blood work for that confirmation.

In the meantime, he's a very sick cat, and the vet isn't being too 
optimistic. I'm bringing him home tomorrow morning, after 48 hours on 
IV.

The entire issue of his pain and quality of life is definitely being 
discussed, and I'm trying to remain rational about that ... I hope 
people won't, however helpfully, remind me of this sad fact, in this 
forum. I know he's a fighter, and I want to give him every chance to 
recover from this, but it gets to a point where that desire to keep him 
alive begins to seem selfish, and his suffering is too difficult to 
see. I would love to have him at home, if it does come to that. The 
general consensus is that we're not quite there, yet.
micklpkl
response 56 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 03:48 UTC 2003

I feel terribly broken-hearted to report this....

We ended Pepper's suffering today, around 4:45 CDT. He went peacefully, 
stretched out on the couch with me, my roommate (his other daddy) and 
purring as he always had done.

Thank you all for the support and information you've shared with me in 
this item. 
glenda
response 57 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 05:04 UTC 2003

I am so sorry.  Telehugs.
mynxcat
response 58 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 17:53 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 59 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 17:57 UTC 2003

I am sorry to hear that. Losing a pet is very hard. 
novomit
response 60 of 66: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 16:55 UTC 2003

Sorry. :(
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