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jp2
response 35 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 20:00 UTC 2003

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mynxcat
response 36 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 20:50 UTC 2003

flem, when you put it that way, yes, it does seem that cross gives 
mary's opinion a little too much credit than it deserves. But when it 
is the president that says such thing, and the president is supposed 
to be the representative of the board and the members, it's easy to 
see why her opinion and public commentary on the situation would upset 
him. (Just like most countries' ideas of Americans are based on what 
they hear Bush say). Especially when very few people stood up for him. 

And it wasn't only cross that got the feeling that he was being 
singled out. It was nearly everyone who read that item. Not too great 
an image of board being portrayed, I'm afraid,
gull
response 37 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 20:59 UTC 2003

Re resp:35: I'm not sure there's a pattern of abuse here.  I think
resp:34 is correct that we have a group of users who are deliberately
trying to provoke staff into doing something questionable.  That's not
really something we've had often in the past on Grex.
albaugh
response 38 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 21:09 UTC 2003

mary has done a lot for grex in the past and present, and I hope will continue
to do so in the future.  That being said, I think she should keep her nose
out of the day-to-day running of staff matters - let them censor themselves,
if necessary.  I think they are more than capable of doing so in a "grexlike"
manner, without aid of the fist of policy being wielded in public comments.
flem
response 39 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 21:13 UTC 2003

> the president is supposed to be the representative of the 
> board and the members,

This is exactly the conclusion I was trying to deny.  I don't believe
the Grex president is supposed to be anybody's representative, except
perhaps as a representative of Cyberspace Communications, Inc. for legal
purposes, such as if we get sued.  The president bangs the gavel. 
That's it.  No more.  As far as I'm aware, the only reason we have a
president is that we are required to by law.  

re #35:  That's just it.  There is no WMD^H^H^Hpattern of abuse.  And
nobody is giving you a hug.  
mary
response 40 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 22:58 UTC 2003

What a snake pit. ;-)

Look, I disagreed with the way this was handled.  Most people,
if not everyone else disagrees with me.  I'm fine with that.
Really.  I have a pretty healthy relationship with critism.

But take a deep breath and do the same, please.  Be okay
with my opinion being different from yours.  Because that's
all this is.
mary
response 41 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 23:03 UTC 2003

Er, I have a healthy relationship with *criticism* too. ;-)
gull
response 42 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 01:00 UTC 2003

But surely you realize that as president, your opinion carries more weight .

willcome
response 43 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 01:59 UTC 2003

Yeah.  THe President shouldn't be divisive + cruel.
mary
response 44 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 02:33 UTC 2003

I hereby decree, by order of my authority as President of Grex,
that tomorrow no one shall utter a single negative word on Grex.
Not a single staff member, nor board member, nor generous member, nor
humble user.  All shall be pleasant and kind for the entire
24 hours.

Any questions?
mary
response 45 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 02:33 UTC 2003

(I had no idea...)
naftee
response 46 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 02:34 UTC 2003

re 36
>cross that got the feeling that he was being
>singled out.

Cross had that feeling because he was the one that made the mistake, and
refused to acknowledge the error.  Of course he was centered out, and for good
reason.
other
response 47 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 05:23 UTC 2003

Pattern of abuse, my hairy white ass.  And *that*'s part of why I 
really don't want to be root staff.  I'm just not that interested in 
censoring myself when someone says something as patently stupid as 
that.
willcome
response 48 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 05:26 UTC 2003

Jew ass.
other
response 49 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 05:33 UTC 2003

Donkeys don't have religions.  Even albino ones.
willcome
response 50 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 05:42 UTC 2003

Don't purposely misinterpret what I say.  It makes you look stupid and Grex
look arbitrary.
naftee
response 51 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 04:22 UTC 2003

Hey, willcome, quit insulting other users, you ass.  Don't you have any
respect for mary's decrees?
tod
response 52 of 53: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 19:34 UTC 2003

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jesuit
response 53 of 53: Mark Unseen   May 17 02:14 UTC 2006

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