response 340 of 404:

Nov 25 07:40 UTC 1998

Right! I think I have more right to tell someone they have no business
condoning or not condoning things that are not their business than they
have in telling me that I should not tell people that it is not their
business to condone (or not). Condoning/not-condoning is sticking one's
nose into other people's business, making them nosy parkers, if that
is clearer.

response 342 of 404:

Nov 25 18:47 UTC 1998

Glad I made myself clear...  8^}

response 344 of 404:

Nov 25 20:11 UTC 1998

I find it amusing, but confusing.

response 346 of 404:

Nov 25 22:41 UTC 1998

re: last debate-- I would suppose the idea seems ridiculous if you're not a
religious person.  But if you are, then refusing to condone might be an issue.
We're all for religious freedom here, and some of the major religions still
do not accept homosexual practices (sex, that is) in their tenets.

But that doesn't ban the homosexual from continuing to worship in that
religion.  Re: #332, yes, it is a Gordian knot sometimes, and I, for one, am
in one somewhat, but shessh, I chose my priorities.

However, I'll admit that it's really ultimately a private matter, and between
you and God or whoever your higher power is.  My beliefs are my own, so I keep
'em, however fandangled and tied up they may be.

I just hope folks would learn that no one can force you to do anything, nor
can they deliberately corrupt you or steal your soul.
(nope, neither God nor the devil nor anyone under the sun)

response 348 of 404:

Nov 26 00:21 UTC 1998

WHO THE FUCK IS BEING DEFENSIVE????????????

heh heh. sorry =}

response 350 of 404:

Nov 26 00:43 UTC 1998

<i chuckles>

response 352 of 404:

Nov 27 02:27 UTC 1998

Re 331   Your personal classification and $1.25 will get me a cup of
coffee.
   Maybe if I actually was aware of a practicing homosexual, I would
be afraid of him or her.  By associating with them, I may run into a couple
of nuts like those out West, who killed that guy.  Or I might be afraid of
catching aids from the sweat or a sneeze of a homo sexual, or I might hate
them because they are different than me.

You don't know how I would react to any homosexual, because I don't know.  I
know it is foolish of me, but I suspect they would be like my neighbor next
door.

My son-in-law doesn't understand me because I argue one way on here and the
opposite
 with him.  We have a number of computers and often work and surf in
the same room.  So when he hears me laughing, he reads what I read.
He is truly mystified by my apparent Jekyl and Hyde writings.

response 354 of 404:

Nov 27 13:58 UTC 1998

        So what's it to be then?  If you know you have a problem with the 
openly homosexual, what is the problem insofar as you understand it?

response 356 of 404:

Nov 27 17:02 UTC 1998

I think Kenton is trying to be both honest and open-minded at the same time,
and I respect him for it.  He is not claiming to be perfect, he is also trying
to understand his own actions, which is more than many people do when they
react without thinking.  And he is trying to explain them to us, not justify
them.  If Kenton were not relatively tolerant of different sorts of people,
he would not be on grex, and I am glad he has decided to join us.  Is there
anyone here whose actions are completely rational?
        Kenton, you cannot get AIDS from someone sneezing on you, or from
saliva, as far as I know.  And many heterosexuals also have AIDS and are on
average more careless about protecting themselves from it.  Lesbians have a
lower incidence of AIDS than heterosexual men.  I would appreciate if you
could figure out just what would make you uncomfortable about being around
(or is it just being seen with?) a known-to-you homosexual.  Most homosexuals,
like most heterosexuals, are not going to indiscriminately attempt to have
sex with anyone of the proper sex.  They are probably not at all interested
in you in that way.  Is it possible that you would be uncomfortable not
knowing how to act with them?  That is understandable.
        Kenton, would you like to attempt to guess how many, and who, of the
participants in this discussion are homosexual or bisexual?
        I think most people act a bit differently depending on whether they
are with a man or a woman, and perhaps it is difficult for some people, when
with a gay man, to know whether to act as if they are with a man or a woman,
the signals are mixed and a bit confusing.  This might be more of a problem
for very feminine women or very masculine men, who are more likely to act
different depending which sex they are with.  (And there are some people with
emotional problems who try to eliminate their problems by eliminating the
cause, leading to gay-bashing).  Any comments on my theory?

response 358 of 404:

Nov 27 21:05 UTC 1998

There is entirely too much public obsession with sex and sexual matters.

response 360 of 404:

Nov 28 01:24 UTC 1998

Grexers generally don't tend to beat people up.

I imagine you'd have a hard time finding many (if any) cases of straight
people being beaten up by homosexuals.  OK, maybe in prison, but normal
societal rules don't apply in prison anyway.

response 362 of 404:

Nov 28 05:45 UTC 1998

I dunno, rcurl, your words often pack a wallop!  ;-)