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tsty
response 325 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 03:09 UTC 1997

something about sending text out is messing up. on the machine w/36 lines
and reading conferences. 
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which was an intersting read... for a while. then, 
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hmmmm, maybe just someting random.
  
however...
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 here and now, the particular interchange I am having at the moment, that gives
 my life meaning.  If someone happens to see it in a little larger context,
 and I can appreciate that context, then I can have pleasure or fun in another
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so... at one point i tested as follows. quit at the more prompt and
enter a response number. text glitch. record the last readable text and
do the   quit/res#  trick again. hmmm, identical place. repeat as before
just to see if the prob shows up repeatably.
  
four times in a row, perfect repetition for the good-text-cutoff, the
garbage following was (of course) different.
  
set stty rows back to 24 .... zero probs.       now what?
tsty
response 326 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 03:30 UTC 1997

  
i guess i typed too soon.....
  
re setenv in .login to vt100, did the noglob/resize/glob thingie
suggested elsewhre sourced the .login, things seemed to work again.
  
the lynx problem went away (YEH!) [[diff item, but related ]]. 
  
started clean again, login, etc, stty rows 36, and thought the
probs were over because three screensful scrolled fine.
  
the fourth:
  
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on stuff too.  Still, as far as learning stuff I needed to know for the real
 world, a lot of that came during the summer.  School was generally switching
 to something that seemed completely unrelated to the previous thing every hour
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rcurl
response 327 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 05:40 UTC 1997

Whatever blocked telnet for me has vanished. Thanks to whomever - or
whatever. 

scott
response 328 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 11:31 UTC 1997

TS, try setting your modem to error correcting, if you haven't already.  The
newer GVC modems seem to have internal buffer overflow problems when connected
non-error-correcting/non-compressing.
dkamu
response 329 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 11:57 UTC 1997

HELLO THERE. ANYONE WANNA CHAT?
md
response 330 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 12:03 UTC 1997

NO!
valerie
response 331 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 15:20 UTC 1997

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tpryan
response 332 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 18:28 UTC 1997

        Sometimes, when I finish a lynx session, I end up with a screen
the behaves like I only have 6 lines.  Everything scrolls past this
narrow band and I have to logoff, exit procomm, start a new
porocmm session and a new grex session.
        What can I do, what do I need to look out for?
valerie
response 333 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 00:14 UTC 1997

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tsty
response 334 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 21:50 UTC 1997

i can look at the stuff, sure - but recognize that the singularity of
change has been to go from 7E1 to 8N1 over that past
two years.
  
same b0x, same modem, same comm program
 
thankxx for the  lynx-fix, btw.  <g>
tpryan
response 335 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 23:16 UTC 1997

        Easier to exit/start procomm than exit/start GREX.  If I gotta
exit/start GREX, I might as welell exit/start procomm.
        I do see what you are saying.  I'll try to pay attention to 
what is happening to me, now that you are interested.
valerie
response 336 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 02:16 UTC 1997

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omni
response 337 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 04:39 UTC 1997

  I think I'm using Procomm on my XT and I'm not having one iota of trouble,
except being stuck at 2400, which I think is OK, BTW.

  TS, maybe you want to use Bitcom, which is a little better than Procomm.
valerie
response 338 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 15:09 UTC 1997

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omni
response 339 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 18:15 UTC 1997

 It's a hardware thang. I'm too lazy to put the 14.4 on the XT. ;)
cmcgee
response 340 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 8 22:45 UTC 1997

Last night I thought Grex was down because once I was connected, I waited 90
seconds, and got no loging prompt.
Tonight, the same thing happened, but I was busy and in another program, so
I didnt hang up.  Imagine my surprise, when 4 minutes after I had connected,
the loging prompt appeared in my comm window.  Why is it taking 4 minutes or
more between the connection and the prompt.  also, the modems do not seem to
be answering, because my software gave up the first three times I dialed Gres,
cause the phones werent answered.
 I connected tonight using 3000, but the problems are appearing on 4931 and
5041 as well.
scg
response 341 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 04:30 UTC 1997

Grex was down last night.  I'm not sure how to explain the problem you had
tonight, since even extreme slowness shouldn't explain that kind of delay.
tsty
response 342 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 04:44 UTC 1997

... where did the factual error on my software arise???
  
i use  zterm on the mac and crosstalk on the d0s b0x.
  
neither has change one whit in the last two years. modems haven't
changed (using the v.everything on the high speed line, as usual) and
these NewSurprisesArise (tm). 
  
so, empirically, the problem is not at my end!
  
btw, system problem... 18 minutes for  good old fashioined   mail  to
load. this is a system problem.
  
at least this time there were no   arithmetic exception  errors <g>.
krj
response 343 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 04:58 UTC 1997

I'm noticing that mail is taking a long time to start up.
Other stuff seems to respond normaly.  ??
scg
response 344 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 05:08 UTC 1997

Grex is back to 32 MB of RAM due to the crashing problem.  That expalins a
lot of the slowness.

TS, we know nothing has changed on your end.  Meanwhile, as you have been told
over and over, changes have happened on Grex's end, and that changes what the
best ways to connect to grex are.  Yet, everytime you are told to turn on your
modem's error correction, since Grex now expects that rather than refusing
to deal with it, you protest that you haven't changed anything.  Not having
changed anything may well be the problem.
richard
response 345 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 22:24 UTC 1997

why wasnt the downtime noted in the motd?  I didnt even know it
was but oh well...
senna
response 346 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 23:04 UTC 1997

I had the weird timing to finally log onto grex about two or three minutes
after it got back up.  I could tell because the !users list was only one line
long, but too long to be dialin only.  Weird.
tsty
response 347 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 04:24 UTC 1997

ahhhh, thankxx scg, now i detect what part of the problem is.. nobody
paid attentino to teh diff between  lo-spped lines and hi-speed lines.

i hvae *never* turnbed off the error coreedction on the HI-speed
lines....  and on teh lo-speed lines, 
  
sure widh teh delay wasn't so bad, this would read better.
  
and on the lo-speed lines, even under the old modems, wehn i backed off
to 2400 bps ...no problem, errror coreectino or not!
  
so i guess there *has* been a change at my end in the past'
two years,.... but i don't know what it could have been.
  
both hi&lo (as set up two yearws ago) worked fine. they were DIFFERENT
from each other. and are now. error correction was on, only the speeds
were different.
  
now, these problems are occassinal, and scott and janc have been
fiddling with stuff & and i think that the fiddling has paid off
epecially when there is a report or two. 
  
btw, i thnk the   rz  is a bit snarfed now also.  i needed to
u/l & d/l some files and i did it in a special directory. 

the file names are ansi .. no, that's   antsy ... last night about
this time, the transfer really barfed. i have to do it again.
  
if some root wants to  look ni the subdirectory, (dunno if anyone
needs to do that) please email me and i'll idedntify the directory.
  
scott
response 348 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 11:16 UTC 1997

Russ Cage has been having some zmodem problems too.  sz seems to be fine, at
least for me, but rz is (I think) having some overflow problems that gets into
excessive packet resends.
dang
response 349 of 364: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 20:42 UTC 1997

I avoid transfering stuff over modems to/from grex.  I'd rather ftp it to UM
and download it from there.
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