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remmers
response 325 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 20:42 UTC 2000

Can't swear to it for sure, but I believe server-side includes were
turned on here not long ago.
other
response 326 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 03:45 UTC 2000

The .shtml indicates a 'secure' page.  It has nothing to do with SSI.
ea
response 327 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 04:21 UTC 2000

.shtml as far as I know does not indicate a secure page.  If you're on a 
secure page, the prefix will be https:// not http://

the .shtml tells the server that it is a page with SSI tags on it, and 
that the server should attempt to parse the document for SSI tags.  If 
it does not see the .shtml, it won't attempt to parse, thus saving 
processor power.
keesan
response 328 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 04:37 UTC 2000

I have written srw.
other
response 329 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 05:15 UTC 2000

re:327

Oops.  You're right.  I'm asleep at the keyboard.
carson
response 330 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 06:16 UTC 2000

(I knew Eric was right.  I just didn't know which one.)
mcnally
response 331 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 23:52 UTC 2000

  I have an Apple G3 PowerBook, which I'm pretty sure is from the series
  Apple code-named "Wall Street", on which I would like to install OpenBSD.
  The latest OpenBSD sources say they work with G3 Macs with Open Firmware
  but are unlikely to ever work with machines without OF.

  Does my PowerBook have Open Firmware?
keesan
response 332 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 02:17 UTC 2000

Sorry, can't help you Mike.  Can anyone tell me the format of a file that
someone included in the message body that looks like 7-bit encoding of binary
and starts with begin 666 mods415.txt.  It was supposed to be a list of
changes to a program that we are drawing a house with.  I copied the file to
my directory as mime.  Saving it and sending it to myself as an attachment
and doing V gave me the same thing I started with.  Each line begins with M.
mods415 = modifications in version 415, but what is begin 666 ?
gelinas
response 333 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 02:26 UTC 2000

That's UUENCODE, Sindi.  It is decoded with UUDECODE.  At the % prompt,
enter the command

        uudecode <filename>

where <filename> is the name of the file.  The result will be a new file
named mods415.txt
mdw
response 334 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 02:49 UTC 2000

I think openfirmware came in with the 604's and PCI bus, so it's likely
the G3's use it.  It should be easy enough to find out however - can you
boot openbsd on it?
mcnally
response 335 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 02:50 UTC 2000

  The uuencode authors, being dedicated Satanists, wrote their binary-to-
  ASCII encoder program to insert "subliminable" messages in encoded files,
  hence the "begin 666"

  (or, alternatively, the "begin" line could indicate the start of the
  encoded information and the "666" could represent a set of traditional
  Unix file permission bits specifying that when the file is created it
  will allow read-write access to the owner (first 6), group (second 6)
  and everyone else (third 6)..  You can read about Unix file permissions
  if you do a "man chmod" -- something you might want to do in order to
  change the default permissions on this particular file, as it is not
  wise to create a file in your home directory which allows any user on
  the system to write to it!)
mcnally
response 336 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 03:10 UTC 2000

  re #334:  I haven't tried booting openbsd on it and was hoping to find
  out whether or not it has it before I spend a great deal of time downloading
  ISO images and burning CD-Rs..

mdw
response 337 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 03:20 UTC 2000

So far as I know, MacOS X, darwin, linuxppc, and openbsd all have the
same constraint, they'll only work on machines with openfirmware.  Only
Mklinux seems to work without openfirmware, and that seems to be because
(a) it's old, and (b) it boots through macos, so the boot process can
make toolbox calls and generally leverage off of MacOS.
mcnally
response 338 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 03:56 UTC 2000

  MacOS X runs on my Powerbook, so that's a point in favor of the "has
  Open Firmware" theory.  However, I think there's some boot-time key
  combo I'm supposed to be able to hit to put it into some sort of Open
  Firmware boot monitor mode, something like <splat>-option-O-F or something.
  Does anyone know offhand what that might be?
cmcgee
response 339 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 20:48 UTC 2000

Different topic:  email settings on AOL 6.0

A list (on egroups, btw) that I am administrator of uses majordomo to eithr
reflect each email to the subscribers or collate the emails and send a bunch
as one email to our digest subscribers.  

Recently, AOL upgraded to 6.0, and now some of our subscribers cannot send
plain text emails.  All their emails are both text and HTML coded.  One
person was told there is no way to change her settings and nothing she can
do about it.  

Does anyone know differently?  Does anyone know what email address I could
use to find an intelligent techie at AOL who could explain to me how our
subscribers can turn off HTML?  

The digest readers must wade through each message twice, first in plain text,
then with a bunch of HTML coding junk imbedded.  I need help to help them.
mdw
response 340 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 21:18 UTC 2000

"command-option-O-F" sounds familiar, so I may have just seen that in
some web page.
jep
response 341 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 21:30 UTC 2000

In both the cartoon and Jim Carrey versions of "The Grinch Who Stole 
Christmas", the Whos sing a Christmas carol which sounds to me vaguely 
like "Awoo-foray, awoo-foray" and then goes on from there.  Are there 
intelligible words to this song?

Thanks!
mcnally
response 342 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 22:04 UTC 2000

  Unfortunately after consulting the OpenBSD release notes for a second time,
  I discovered a discouraging comment that I'd missed the first time around
  (or perhaps it was a clarification added recently..)  Anyway, apparently
  OpenBSD only currently boots on machines that have Open Firmware *AND*
  "New World" ROMs.  I'm pretty confident I do have Open Firmware, but I'm
  positive that my machine predates the "New World" ROMs..
scott
response 343 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 22:10 UTC 2000

See www.salon.com for an article about how Apple routinely changes/adds new
and backwards-incompatible things to their products... :(
gull
response 344 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 22:33 UTC 2000

It's all part of Apple's whole "we hate our customers" thing...
n8nxf
response 345 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 23:12 UTC 2000

Glad there's Microsoft!
mcnally
response 346 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 00:06 UTC 2000

  Indeed.  It's much more appropriate for the customers to hate the company!
keesan
response 347 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 03:46 UTC 2000

Uudecode worked perfectly on my mystery file.  How might this file have gotten
placed into the message encoded?  I am sure it was an accident.
gelinas
response 348 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 03:59 UTC 2000

No, it probably wasn't an accident.  It is *possible* that some mail
client may be configured to use uudecode for attachments, but it doesn't
seem likely to me.

The uu-programs (uuencode, uudecode, uucp) come from a long time ago, when
the the Internet was still small and most unix boxes were "networked" by
dial-up modems.  They probably pre-date SMTP; at best, they arose at the
same time.  (I'd guess they influenced one another, actually.)  But this
means that MIME, which came along MUCH later, wouldn't have much use for
uuencode/uudecode.
carson
response 349 of 365: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 04:49 UTC 2000

resp:341

(the song is called "Welcome Christmas."  it can be found on the Rhino
Records release _Original Television Soundtracks: Dr. Seuss' How The
Grinch Stole Christmas/Horton Hears A Who_, and maybe even on this year's
movie soundtrack.  the lyrics for both the first time the song is sung and
the reprise can be found at 
<http://www.seuss.org/seuss/welcome.xmas.html>.   they're longish, else I'd
type/paste them in.) 

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