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Grex > Agora35 > #102: Michigan Senate Straw vote (very scientific) | |
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krj
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response 32 of 62:
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Oct 23 20:00 UTC 2000 |
If I heard the radio correctly: WUOM will rebroadcast today's debate
between Abraham and Stabenow at 9 pm tonight. That's 91.7 FM in
Ann Arbor, with some repeaters at different frequencies in Flint
and Grand Rapids.
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aruba
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response 33 of 62:
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Oct 24 02:36 UTC 2000 |
Re #31: Rane, could you tell us what you know about the candidates'
environmental records?
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rcurl
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response 34 of 62:
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Oct 24 06:03 UTC 2000 |
Abraham is one of the LCV's "Dirty Dozen". See
http://www.lcv.org/campaigns/dirtydozen/abraham.htm
A comparison with Stabenow is in the same article.
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flem
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response 35 of 62:
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Oct 24 16:49 UTC 2000 |
I don't know much about these candidates. I do know that Abraham's TV
commercials have pissed me off less than Stabenow's, but that's not
necessarily cause for voting one way or the other...
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aruba
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response 36 of 62:
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Oct 24 16:54 UTC 2000 |
Re #34: Thanks.
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senna
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response 37 of 62:
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Oct 24 19:32 UTC 2000 |
"Spence's" tv commercials have, for the most part, done a good job on his
image. However, isn't www.liberaldebbie.com just a bit of a childish name
for a website?
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rcurl
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response 38 of 62:
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Oct 24 19:57 UTC 2000 |
liberal (adj). 1. Possessing or manifesting a free and generous heart;
bountiful. 2. Appropriate or fitting for a broad and enlightened mind. 3.
Free from narrowness, bigotry, or bondage to authority or creed, as in
religion; inclined to democratic or republican ideas, as opposed to
monarchical or aristocratic, as in politics; broad, popular, progressive.
illiberal (adj.). 1. Not liberal; not generous in giving; parsimonious. 2.
Narrow-minded. 3. Lacking breadth of culture; hence, vulgar.
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brighn
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response 39 of 62:
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Oct 24 20:35 UTC 2000 |
DEBBIE STABENOW IS LIBERAL!
*gasp!*
since when is that an insult to anyone other than a tried-and-true
Conservative?
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albaugh
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response 40 of 62:
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Oct 24 20:52 UTC 2000 |
rcurl hasn't dragged out that useless liberal definition in awhile...
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krj
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response 41 of 62:
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Oct 24 20:52 UTC 2000 |
Since 1980, at least.
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krj
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response 42 of 62:
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Oct 24 20:52 UTC 2000 |
(#40 slept in.... "liberal" as a pejorative dates back to about the
1980 Reagan campaign.)
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brighn
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response 43 of 62:
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Oct 24 21:22 UTC 2000 |
Reagan was not a tried-and-true Conservative?
Actually, compounded with "redneck commie pinko," "liberal"'s
guilt-by-association perjorativeness goes back to at least Sen. McCarthy and
his ilk. =}
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klg
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response 44 of 62:
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Oct 25 03:09 UTC 2000 |
"If a person is not a liberal when he's 20, he has no heart; if he
is not a conservative when he's 50, he has no brain."
And, " Abraham is one of the LCV's "Dirty Dozen"" might have greater
meaning if they used consistent criteria rather than picking and
choosing whomever they wanted to be on it.
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rcurl
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response 45 of 62:
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Oct 25 04:21 UTC 2000 |
Re #40: I've noticed that you don't like dictionaries. :)
I consider "liberal" to be an honoric. The best of our culture is to
be found in liberal arts and liberal education.
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klg
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response 46 of 62:
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Oct 25 04:29 UTC 2000 |
Which, sadly, can rarely be found at public colleges and universities.
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brighn
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response 47 of 62:
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Oct 25 15:08 UTC 2000 |
#45> Dictionaries are too objective. If you don't like what they say, you
can't yell at them until they change their minds. =}
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jep
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response 48 of 62:
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Oct 25 17:51 UTC 2000 |
re #45: There is a difference between "liberal" for arts and education,
and "liberal" as used in politics.
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brighn
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response 49 of 62:
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Oct 25 17:53 UTC 2000 |
I would say definition #3 as provided by Rane is fairly appropriate for the
politic sphere.
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brighn
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response 50 of 62:
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Oct 25 17:57 UTC 2000 |
Vote update:
Stabenow -- 12 (mrmat, rcurl)
Abraham -- 5 (tpryan)
Shakey Jake -- 2 (ea)
Lots of comments, no candidate -- 1
(refer to #24 for more voters)
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janc
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response 51 of 62:
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Oct 25 18:22 UTC 2000 |
Stabenow.
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bruin
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response 52 of 62:
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Oct 26 02:15 UTC 2000 |
The Senate candidate known as "Liberal Debbie" gets my vote.
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fitz
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response 53 of 62:
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Oct 26 16:27 UTC 2000 |
I see all the time that Stenenow is a LIBERAL, so I guess that she gets my
vote. However, I remember her best as one of the legislators who drove
through the legislation so that Coleman Young, the mayor marauder of Detroit,
could use eminent domain to condemn residential neighborhoods at the behest
of a corporation. Grrrr. I wouldn't have known her as a liberal unless
Abraham's ads told me.
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rcurl
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response 54 of 62:
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Oct 26 17:38 UTC 2000 |
"No one is perfect." 8^{
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gelinas
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response 55 of 62:
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Oct 28 06:33 UTC 2000 |
While in Alabama, I saw some ads arguing that a Ms. Folsum was "too liberal
for Alabama." She, too, is a Democrat running for Congress.
Stabenow.
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swa
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response 56 of 62:
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Oct 30 06:41 UTC 2000 |
We can split our vote?! Oh goody. I vote 68.8% Shakey Jake, 31.2%
Stabenow.
(I'm no longer registered to vote in Michigan, but figured I'd take what
opportunity I could to be perverse.)
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