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aruba
response 307 of 316: Mark Unseen   May 10 21:53 UTC 2000

I heard on the radio today that lawyer Michael L. Steinberg was cited for
contempt of court for not turning off his cell phone in court.  I thought
I'd mention, in case anyone else heard the same report, that this is *not*
the Michael Steinberg who is head of the Michigan ACLU.  The Michael
Steinberg of the ACLU is Michael J. Steinberg.  When he came to a Grex board
meeting last year someone showed him a newspaper ad for Michael L. Steinberg
and asked if it was his.  He sighed and said no, and that he had insisted
that the other lawyer always include the "L." in his name when advertising.
other
response 308 of 316: Mark Unseen   May 11 21:37 UTC 2000

Thanks for clarifying that.  I saw the article in the AA News today and
wondered, though there was no mention of the ACLU affiliation.
remmers
response 309 of 316: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 15:20 UTC 2000

An appellate court in Philadelphia ruled unanimously a few days ago
in ACLU vs. Reno that the Child Online Protection Act (COPA) is
unconstitutional.  It was passed by Congress in 1998 but has never
been enforced.

This doesn't bear directly on the Cyberspace vs. Engler suit to which
Grex is a party, but ACLU attorney Mike Steinberg feels that this
decision bolsters our case, about which he already felt quite confident.
He indicated to me that he is expecting a court date on the state's
appeal to be set any day now, early fall at the latest.  (This seems
to keep getting put off.  Last I heard, it was going to happen mid-
summer at the latest.)
remmers
response 310 of 316: Mark Unseen   Sep 8 22:09 UTC 2000

Well, mid-summer passed and nothing happened with the court date,
but now apparently things are definite.  I just received the following
email from Michael Steinberg of the ACLU:

    I just learned today that we have received a date for oral argument
    from the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cyberspace v. Engler,
    the Internet censorship case.  Appellate argument will be held on
    on Friday, October 27 in Cincinatti at the U.S. Courthouse -- 100
    E. Fifth Street.  Check-in for all oralists for the day is at 8:30
    a.m.; we do not know at this point what time the Cyberspace argument
    will begin.  Andrew Nickelhoff, the lead attorney on the case will
    argue.  Given the importance of the case, I plan to be there as well.

    All Grex/Cyberspace Communications members are more than welcome
    attend and it would be great if there was a good turnout to support
    Andy.  Arguments are open to the public.  Feel free to spread
    the word.

    Michael J. Steinberg, Legal Director American Civil Liberties Union
    of Michigan

use
response 311 of 316: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 15:51 UTC 2001

Was wondering why no info was posted about how the lawsuit turned out in
the end.
carson
response 312 of 316: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 19:17 UTC 2001

(because it's not over?)

<carson doesn't know>
remmers
response 313 of 316: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 02:03 UTC 2001

See item 212, where the outcome of the appeals hearing is
reported.  In brief, we won.
use
response 314 of 316: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 13:18 UTC 2001

RE:#313

John.

I understand that item as saying that the preliminary injunction was
upheld, but does that mean that the lawsuit is over with completely,
after all it is only a temporary injunction?
remmers
response 315 of 316: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 18:05 UTC 2001

As far as I know, what's posted in the text of item 212 is
the latest news.  So no, it's possibly not over.  I'm sure
the ACLU will inform us of any new developments.
other
response 316 of 316: Mark Unseen   Apr 18 02:18 UTC 2001

The next move is up to the state.  Odds are they'll focus on another 
approach since all indications are that this one is doomed.

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