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slynne
response 3 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:43 UTC 2006

The closest I have ever gotten to Newfoundland is Cape Breton Island 
which isnt bleak and probably isnt too similar to Newfoundland but also 
has wonderful local folk music. 
mcnally
response 4 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:03 UTC 2006

 Yes, Cape Breton Island seemed to have a *lot* of local music going
 on when I was there.  And it (the landscape, not the music, which I
 didn't really have time to sample) was quite beautiful..
albaugh
response 5 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 18:53 UTC 2006

New Brunswick, Nova Scotia including Cape Breton Island, visited there summer
2005, definitely very beautiful country.
naftee
response 6 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 05:29 UTC 2006

I've been to St John's, Newfoundland, and wouldn't mind living there.  I can't
see how it'd be any more BLEAK than alaska, though, mike !

the furthest east i've been on the mainland is the gaspe' peninsula.   i've
been to cape spear, though !
mcnally
response 7 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 06:39 UTC 2006

 re #6:  I've heard St. John's and the Avalon Peninsula are nice.
 I didn't make it down to that part of Newfoundland, however, I
 explored the western coast, along the Gulf of St. Lawrence, from
 Port aux Basques in the south all the way up to the rediscovered
 Viking ruins at L'Anse aux Meadows near the northern tip.

 I suppose southern Newfoundland wasn't especially bleak but my
 memory of the coast north of Gros Morne is of desolate (though
 beautiful) shoreline and miles and miles of flat marsh stretching
 towards the distant mountains which form the spine of the island.
 Tiny fishing villages along small, rocky coves, with giant icebergs
 floating in the harbors in the middle of July.   And up at the 
 northern tip, L'Anse aux Meadows, where the ruins of a thousand-
 year-old Viking settlement perch on a cold and foggy shore.

 As for being bleaker than Alaska -- well, that depends on what
 part of Alaska you mean.  I'm tucked away in a belt of temperate
 climate and incredibly lush vegetation in the extreme southern
 part of the state.  There's no tundra here, no permafrost, no
 midnight sun, no polar bears..  I've never been to that part of
 the state, though I hope to visit the arctic some year soon.
naftee
response 8 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 01:06 UTC 2006

Well ; it's just that your comment in resp:2 about Newfoundland being bleak
is akin to me saying that all of Alaska is bleak ; yet here you are in a 
lush leafy area of that state.  you could've specified the areas you 
visited beforehand.
i'm a little sensitive about this kind of prejudice ; it comes from 
explaining to some americans that canadians don't live in igloos.

You should know, though, that Newfoundland is nicknamed 'the rock'.  however,
i've been told that a lot of it's rockiness is due to too much logging.
nharmon
response 9 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 01:26 UTC 2006

> canadians don't live in igloos.


..............you don't?
naftee
response 10 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 01:30 UTC 2006

NO SIR
kingjon
response 11 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 01:44 UTC 2006

I've been to Canada only once (to Stratford last year as an English field trip)
but I've never had that sort of prejudice. Part of it probably comes from
having CBC Radio 2 as the primary radio station at home.

mcnally
response 12 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 03:08 UTC 2006

 re #8:  I've been fortunate, in my travels, to have visited quite a bit
 of Canada -- more, I daresay, than many Canadians have, though I have yet
 to find an inhabited igloo, even in cities like Toronto and Montreal where
 you'd expect to find many of them, at least in the suburbs..  I did meet
 people in Ottawa who skated to work on frozen canals but I am assured they
 also have motor vehicles, perhaps for summer use.  Perhaps most confusingly,
 of the people I met in Quebec who zpoke with zee accent stereotypical, none
 of zem were employed as zee lumberjacks or zee traders of fur..

 I will freely admit that we Americans have a thing or two to learn about
 Canada, but, well, you Canadians are a little oversentive on the topic, 
 don't you know?  Maybe you just need to take a deep breath, have a donut,
 and chill out, eh?
slynne
response 13 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 03:41 UTC 2006

My sister-in-law lives in a high rise igloo in Toronto
naftee
response 14 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 16:16 UTC 2006

re 12
You should learn that I had a physics professor in Ottawa who not only skated
to work during the winter ; she also biked/jogged/roller-bladed to work along 
the paths that follow the canal during the spring when the canal was closed to
skaters.

I had that class at 8:30 on Friday mornings, and she would always talk about
the cold wind on the canal.

I'm not sure who you met in Quebec, but rest assured that there are quite a
few Quebeckers who speak English as a first language, and they aren't
necessarily all found in Montreal.  I know ; it tripped me out too when I
first moved here.

AND regarding my American visits : I've been to Alamagordo, NM, and Duluth,
MI ; two cities which are "famous" for different reasons and probably unheard
of by most Americans.

Out of curiosity, where have you visited in our lovely country ?
mcnally
response 15 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 18:48 UTC 2006

 re #14:  
 >  Out of curiosity, where have you visited in our lovely country ?

 From east to west, I've visited Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick,
 Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and British Columbia (meaning I've
 missed P.E.I., Manitoba, the Yukon, and the NW Territories & Nunavut.)
 Most of that time has been spent camping in park or wilderness areas but
 of the major cities I've spent at least a couple of days in each of:
 Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary, and Quebec.  Obviously, as
 huge as the country is, I'll never run out of parts of it I have yet to
 see, but I've at least sampled a fair bit of it.
drew
response 16 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 22:26 UTC 2006

There's no Canada / like French Canada...
slynne
response 17 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 04:08 UTC 2006

I have spent a lot of time in Ontario. I have lived in two border
cities, Detroit and Sault Ste Marie. Otherwise, I have gone to Toronto a
lot. I have relatives there now even. I went on a sailing trip on the
Canadian side of Lake Huron. I have some friends who have a summer house
on Cape Breton Island in Nova Scotia and I visted them there once. It
was more of a drive than I expected but it was a really fun trip. I
brought my kayak and we all did a lot of kayaking on Bras Dor Lake. 

I would love to see the more western parts of the country, particularly
Vancouver. 
jadecat
response 18 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 13:41 UTC 2006

re #14- Duluth MI (Michigan) or MN (Minnesota)?
naftee
response 19 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:56 UTC 2006

i don't do camping or winter sports :(

i'm quite partial to bike riding, though
naftee
response 20 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:57 UTC 2006

oh; sorry

duluth minnesota ! home of the SS William A Irvin ! (i've got piczzz)
gull
response 21 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 02:19 UTC 2006

The only Canadian city I've spent any time in is Sault Ste. Marie. I'd 
like to see more of the country some day. It looks like if I plan to, 
I'd better get a passport soon, though. 
gull
response 22 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 02:19 UTC 2006

(Heck, some day I'd kind of like to live there, but for financial 
reasons that's quite a ways off.) 
nharmon
response 23 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 03:04 UTC 2006

The only Canadian city I've visited was Windsor. Its was too much like
being in Detroit.
kingjon
response 24 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 04:12 UTC 2006

The only Canadian city I've visited is Stratford (though we did stop for a meal
somewhere en route, and so I learned (by overhearing some friends) that you
can't get ice in a soft drink in Canada), on a field trip with my AP English
Lit & Comp class to see _As You Like It_ (now one of my favorite plays). 
On the other hand, CBC Radio 2 is the primary radio station at home. The only
time we always listen to something else is from 6-7 o'clock weeknights (there's
"Marketplace" on WGTE and then on WUOM) and from 10-12 Saturday ("Car Talk" and
then "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" on WEMU).

scholar
response 25 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 05:04 UTC 2006

Yeah, that's right.

You can't get ice in your drink up here.

It's 'cause we need it for our igloos.
jadecat
response 26 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 13:24 UTC 2006

Hmm... When I was in Toronto (like 4 years ago now) I was able to get
ice in my soft drink...
nharmon
response 27 of 37: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 13:46 UTC 2006

jadecat robbed some poor bloke of his igloo home so she could have ice
in her soft drink :(








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