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keesan
response 29 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 17:43 UTC 2004

I just emailed myself from a non-grex account (after making sure keesan was
no longer on my white list) with subject line 'viagra cialis meds', all three
of which words are in my subject filters, and the mail went to my inbox.  I
have the double quotes - should I remove them?  It is acting as if procmail
is not there.  I changed both .forward and the MAIL line in .procmailrc and
these are both globally readable.  I also got another spam not from me in the
inbox.  My filter, when working, gets about 95% of spams.  Would one of you
experts mind trying out a very simple procmail setup to see if it works for
you?  
janc
response 30 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 17:55 UTC 2004

Yes, new Grex will hang up on logout.  I think this is hard to change.
blaise
response 31 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 18:01 UTC 2004

I have my filter working.  (I copied yours, commented out everything
except the first and last conditions, and changed them to something
simple I could work with.  My filter puts anything from my spamcop
account into a folder named Mail/spamcop [in Maildir format], and
forwards anything else to my spamcop account.)

MAIL=/var/mail/blaise
LOGFILE=$HOME/Mail/from
VERBOSE=off

:0
* ^From:.*jtrigg.*@spamcop.net
$HOME/Mail/spamcop/

:0
!jtrigg+cyber@spamcop.net
keesan
response 32 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 18:45 UTC 2004

I just got one REAL spam (not the ones I was making up and sending from
myself) sent to /dev/null.  So it appears to be working.  I don't know why
mails from keesan@ are going into my inbox no matter what the subject line.
keesan
response 33 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 18:46 UTC 2004

Jan, why won't the new grex allow logging out and in again?
blaise
response 34 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 19:12 UTC 2004

Sindi, mails from *@grex are whitelisted before cialis is blacklisted. 
(The grex whitelist is in the middle of the blacklists.)
cross
response 35 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 19:31 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

keesan
response 36 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 19:38 UTC 2004

I just removed from my white list 'org edu grex keesan' as From's and procmail
just caught a spam that I sent to myself.  But I still cannot view my log file
(/mail/from) from within Pine.  I can view it with less so it is not a problem
but it may be symptomatic of something not being set up right.  I could view
the first time but ever since it has been blank.  I now have a choice of 1
or 2 in 'from', both blank.
blaise
response 37 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 20:05 UTC 2004

It's possible that the new version of pine is more picky about mbox
format (which the procmail log isn't but is similar to).
janc
response 38 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 21:26 UTC 2004

Old Grex was modified not to hang up.  It used to confuse a lot of
people who were used to the standard behavior.  It would probably be
possible to figure out how to modify new Grex to do that, but I think
it'd be a lot of work.

Fronttalk directly executes backtalk when used on Grex.
glenda
response 39 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 21:56 UTC 2004

When I log in I get a message that I have mail, when I go into elm it says
I have 0 messages.
glenda
response 40 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 22:03 UTC 2004

Pine tells me that /var/spool/g/l/glenda doesn't exist.  I prefer elm but
tried pine see if it could find this elusive new mail.
glenda
response 41 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 22:05 UTC 2004

Oops, make that /var/spool/mail/g/l/glenda
blaise
response 42 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 22:14 UTC 2004

In your .login file, remove the line that starts "setenv MAIL".  That
should fix the problem; if not, replace it with "setenv MAIL
/var/spool/mail/glenda".
cross
response 43 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 22:44 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

gelinas
response 44 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 00:39 UTC 2004

Re the final paragraph of 18: that is what I expected to hear.  /usr/bin/ssh
is the ssh executable; /usr/local/bin/ssh is a wrapper to get through the
kernel blocks.  The OpenBSD pf filters work well, but they are different from
our home-grown ones.

A general note on the pf filters:  Every program that provides outbound
access to members will have to be linked to the wrapper program.  The
wrapper _may_ have to be modified as well.  So if you find something that
worked on the old machine but doesn't work here, please either mention
it here or send a message to staff.
drew
response 45 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 00:53 UTC 2004

sz (zmodem send) either is not present, is named differently, or is not in
the default $PATH.

kermit send pretends to work, but doesn't actually send anything.

At least sftp works, finally! Though I need to find a Windoze client that has
download progress reporting. (The version that came with Putty does not.)
gelinas
response 46 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 01:23 UTC 2004

/usr/local/bin/sz is linked to /usr/local/grex-scripts/xmodem_wrapper which
doesn't exist.
cross
response 47 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 02:17 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

keesan
response 48 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 02:42 UTC 2004

I just confirmed the kermit send problem - I got the little bar showing that
it reached 100% and then looked and what I sent was not where I sent it.
While telnetted here.
keesan
response 49 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 03:08 UTC 2004

Ftp worked perfectly in both directions (put and get) just now.  I will be
happy to test any fixes to kermit so that non-members can also transfer files.
gelinas
response 50 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 03:18 UTC 2004

Non-members can ftp in, they just can't ftp out.
albaugh
response 51 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 04:22 UTC 2004

OK, something that either I had set or grex had set was not maintained during
the nextgrex migration:  I have always been able to count on a new login
prompt being issued when I did exit from sh.  Now my connection is dropped.
What setting do I need under nextgrex to maintain the old behavior?
tsty
response 52 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 05:14 UTC 2004

this b0xen is snappy!! kewlness!
keesan
response 53 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 05:39 UTC 2004

Regarding kermit, I can send and receive files when dialed into grex using
kermit to dial.  I was going to try telnetting from grex to sdf using kermit
telnet but sdf is not answering.  When I got the phenomenon of kermit
appearing to send but nothing arriving (sending from grex to sdf account) was
when I telnetted using the non-kermit telnet program, which even on old grex
did not allow me to send files via kermit but on the old grex did not appear
to be sending, just timed out.  Is this a newer version of kermit?  If so I
might want to report this as a bug to the kermit people.  How do I determine
the version?  
I think I tested kermit send/receive on NextGrex earlier, having telnetted
to NextGrex from OldGrex using kermit telnet, and it worked.  
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