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tod
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response 29 of 119:
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Jan 15 06:01 UTC 2006 |
How juvenile
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cross
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response 30 of 119:
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Jan 15 17:48 UTC 2006 |
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tsty
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response 31 of 119:
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Jan 15 21:23 UTC 2006 |
bru - guess that puts yo on the othe side of hte mississippi now. but
event he french quarter is high/dry ground, in'nit?
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bru
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response 32 of 119:
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Jan 16 05:17 UTC 2006 |
most of the french quarter, and most of the garden district were free
of water, but the areas around them had some damage.
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mcnally
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response 33 of 119:
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Jan 16 06:44 UTC 2006 |
Do you mean damage from the flood? Because the areas around the edges of
the French Quarter and Garden District were pretty hard-hit looking when
I was last in New Orleans and that was several years *before* Katrina..
:-|
It sounds like the neighborhood Cathy lived in ("Uptown", off of Carrollton,
kind of near Tulane) was spared from the flooding, which I was glad to hear,
as that neighborhood was friendly and the people around her looked after
each other. It would be sad to think that it was destroyed and the people
scattered, though I'm sure that's the case in many parts of the city.
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klg
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response 34 of 119:
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Jan 16 11:39 UTC 2006 |
(Bru's experience has improved his spelling.)
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aruba
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response 35 of 119:
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Jan 16 18:01 UTC 2006 |
Re #33: I believe Tulane itself was flooded.
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mcnally
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response 36 of 119:
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Jan 16 19:06 UTC 2006 |
re #35: Big parts of it, from what I understand. Apparently they're
not even going to re-open their engineering school, having decided to
concentrate their limited resources on other academic programs.
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albaugh
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response 37 of 119:
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Jan 16 19:30 UTC 2006 |
> One of the things that might not be obvious is that armed security has
> long been a big business in New Orleans.
If you go overseas (e.g. Asia e.g. Philippines) you will see armed guards all
over the place, including drug stores, grocery stores, you name it.
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mcnally
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response 38 of 119:
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Jan 16 19:33 UTC 2006 |
Yes, and no doubt for good reason in many places. It's still a bit
jarring (to me, anyway) to see it in the USA.
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albaugh
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response 39 of 119:
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Jan 16 19:49 UTC 2006 |
Agreed. But then I have never visited a devestated area that has been turned
into essentially 3rd world...
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mcnally
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response 40 of 119:
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Jan 17 03:20 UTC 2006 |
My point was that, to a lesser extent, New Orleans was like that even
before Katrina.
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klg
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response 41 of 119:
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Jan 17 11:41 UTC 2006 |
Did I hear a news report that Mayor Nagin stated NO will again be a
black-majority city because that is "God's will?"
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klg
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response 42 of 119:
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Jan 17 12:23 UTC 2006 |
And this morning I hear that Nagin is saying the hurricanes were God's
retribution agains the US for being in Iraq.
(Now. someone explain to me how is this different from Pat Robertson's
recent statements about Ariel Sharon - other than the fact that while
Robertson is a private citizen, Nagin is an elected public official??)
Go get 'im, Richard!! Your country is calling.
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jep
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response 43 of 119:
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Jan 17 14:14 UTC 2006 |
The mayor of New Orleans said that the numerous hurricanes this year
were a sign of God's feelings about America and the war in Iraq, and
also about God's dismay over black activist infighting. I think he
should be excused. He had a hard year last year.
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rcurl
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response 44 of 119:
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Jan 17 17:20 UTC 2006 |
Bringing up this god stuff, by either Robertson or Nagin, does nothing to
explain or improve the situations. They are wasting breath and lowering
the discussion from the real problems.
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mcnally
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response 45 of 119:
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Jan 17 17:27 UTC 2006 |
re #42: Yes, Nagin made a public statement that was pretty stupid. And?
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tod
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response 46 of 119:
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Jan 17 17:35 UTC 2006 |
Nagin is using GW tactics by dumbing down disaster preparedness to "Noah was
a bad boy."
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fitz
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response 47 of 119:
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Jan 18 08:05 UTC 2006 |
It's extremely stupid. By the time I caught his comments on CNN, he already
elaborated further about his New Orleans qua "Chocolate City" comments. I
think that he's neither explained nor retracted the hurricane and war
connection. It must be a miracle, an absolute miracle.
So, if God punishes New Orleans in such old Testament fashion, should Nagin
be making a sacrifice at the temple?
MLK day has been just about the worst ever for other politictians blathering
beyond the expectations of the public. Hillary Clinton compared the White
House to a plantation. Although her statement was applauded by the audience,
the comparison only exposes her penchant for politicizing a day set aside for
commemoration. It strikes me as rude: Attacking the White House could wait
a day, couldn't it?
Furthermore, Bush himself reportedly wrapped his MLK address around Lincon,
not King. Eh, I suppose that the future of the MLK holiday will be to alter
the football season so that the Super Bowel can be played on it.
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bru
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response 48 of 119:
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Jan 18 09:41 UTC 2006 |
damn! lost a response.
anyway, it looks like thingsa re going to be heting up down here as
more and more residents return. Three shootings during the MLK day
parade.
Our company lost the contract at Touro because they want armed guards,
and FEMA will not let us be armed. They offered to hire some of us at
$8 plus room amd board.
FEMA may be coming around after reading after action reports from
security officers unable to defend themselves from youths throwing
rocks and telling them they don't car if they are there to protect the
residents, the youths have guns, and the guards do not.
the hotels want a minimum of 5 armed guards around the clock for mardi
gras.
The city has okayed over 80 trailer park sites. with an average of 7
guards per shift at 1200 per week, and with the company operational
costs fo these contracts at 3 times the salary, you are looking at
contrats worth over $5,000,000 per week. And that is just from FEMA
contracts. The private security down here begins to look almost as
complicted and expensive as the situation in Iraq.
I also heard a report that 1/4 of all U.S. gun sales for the last
quarter took place in ... wait for it... Louisiana. Private security
is rivaling the local police and sheriff offices down here.
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klg
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response 49 of 119:
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Jan 18 11:54 UTC 2006 |
(Fitz: "Super Bowel"?? Handles hard to digest foods with ease??)
Anyway, good point about MLK day. Rather than using it as a positive
opportunity to teach the values the Reverend King preached to improve
our society, Demos have taken it as open season on Republicans. It's a
shame.
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rcurl
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response 50 of 119:
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Jan 18 15:18 UTC 2006 |
Republicans try so hard to make themselves inviting targets. That's a shame
too.
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marcvh
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response 51 of 119:
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Jan 18 15:57 UTC 2006 |
MLK was a controversial and divisive political figure in his day (and,
among some people, he still is.) I see little benefit in presenting the
day as some sort of "lollipop history" feel-good event that strips
away everything important and interesting.
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klg
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response 52 of 119:
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Jan 18 17:13 UTC 2006 |
It would seem to me that the purpose in designating a national holiday
named after Reverend King was to honor him for what he taught and
accomplished and to encourage others to follow his example. That's a
problem for you?
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tod
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response 53 of 119:
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Jan 18 17:53 UTC 2006 |
I don't know which is more annoying: religion being used to explain
disorganization in FEMA...OR...political parties being used to explain the
opinions of congress leveled on one another?
This is all called SPIN.
We, as citizens and voters, are being stupidly persuaded to take the eye off
the ball "government" by blaming religion or dems/gop for the ill performing
government in times of crisis. You can extend that namecalling or magic show
spin to using "liberal" or "neocon" slanders rather than addressing the acts
of individual electeds.
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