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remmers
response 288 of 299: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 18:25 UTC 2005

I'm not sure about the license either, but evidently we can modify the
software.  Jan made some changes to get newuser to run under OpenBSD. 
(Jan also wrote the web version of newuser.)
cross
response 289 of 299: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 01:52 UTC 2005

I'm not sure there's much of a point in modifying newuser.  Why wouldn't
we just take xnew, which seems like a much newer piece of code, and use
that?
remmers
response 290 of 299: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 11:08 UTC 2005

"Newer" doesn't necessarily mean "better", but still, it's a good idea
to consider alternatives to the software you're currently using.  

I'm not familiar with xnew, but when I went to the xnew home page at
http://www.xenos.net/software/xnew/, here's the first thing I saw:

    NOTE: Xnew is NO LONGER being maintained or supported. It works
    fine, but the code is not being developed and the author does not
    use it anymore. This page is being kept available for historical
    purposes and in case the code may be useful to others.

So if we decided to use it, looks like we'd be the ones who'd have to
maintain it.  In the interest of lightening staff workload, a product
that somebody else maintains might be better.
cross
response 291 of 299: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 12:48 UTC 2005

There doesn't appear to be one.  However, I downloaded xnew and looked
at it.  First, it appears to be better written.  Second, it's about a
third of the code size of Marcus's newuser.  Third, it's somewhat
scriptable.  Fourth, since we already have to maintain newuser, and no
one but Marcus knows really how it works and Marcus doesn't appear to
be involved with Grex anymore, it probably makes sense to switch to
something less byzantine.
tod
response 292 of 299: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 15:54 UTC 2005

re #291
I would say that "newer" is "better" in this case.  I've never been one to
appreciate 3 times the amount of code with poor documentation.  Why re-invent
the wheel when xnew is out there.
cross
response 293 of 299: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 19:01 UTC 2005

Exactly.
sabre
response 294 of 299: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 20:23 UTC 2005

mary shows her true colors as usual.
While pretending to enjoy an open forum she harbors the desire to shut 
down newuser therby sentencing grex to stagnation.
She would love it if the only voices heard belonged to those she 
agreed with.
mcnally
response 295 of 299: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 20:49 UTC 2005

 You know if Mary and the rest of the Grex founders were as pro-censorship
 as you are assuming them to be there never would have been a Grex with an
 open newuser policy.
tod
response 296 of 299: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 20:51 UTC 2005

Yea, and there never would be such a flurry of staff open recruitment...
Oh wait...
cross
response 297 of 299: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 16:45 UTC 2005

Actually, though I disagree with Mary on lots of things, I have to say
that to her credit, she was one of the people who seriously questioned
the deleting of the jep/valerie items and supported their restoration.
I'd hardly call her a censor.
tod
response 298 of 299: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 21:44 UTC 2005

If it weren't for Mary, there could have been a shooting rampage at New
Center.
jesuit
response 299 of 299: Mark Unseen   May 17 02:15 UTC 2006

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