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mikeg
response 28 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 19:49 UTC 1998

re: spotty telnet gateways
There are some decent Java telnet apps out there, one of which is GPL'd
and available at http://www.first.gmd.de/persons/leo/java/Telnet/.  
Would this be a viable solution? (A user who has telnet blocked could 
use the Java telnet instead, provided they had a browser that supports 
Java)
mta
response 29 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 02:19 UTC 1998

When I'll be away from Ann Arnbor, I have my e-mail forwarded to a web-based
e-mail system like hotmail or Yahoo.  That way no onme has to learn a new
address for me and I can remove the forward when I return if I want to.
spiff
response 30 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 05:57 UTC 1998

good suggestion. i did that. (#29)
rtg
response 31 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 06:43 UTC 1998

re: resp:27  Both IE and Netscape browsers have a builtin
telnet client, and WIN95, as well as WFWG 3.11 (with the free TCP/IP
extensions) come with telnet clients.  The AOL client does telnet, as
well.  I've never had trouble finding a telnet client on any machine that
has been set up for internet access of any kind.

re: resp:28  A telnet client implemented in JAVA is still a telnet client,
and will communicate using telnet protocols, not http protocols.  So the
user will still have to wait thru the telnet queue, and once they're
logged on, they'll have to suffer with the higher resource utilization and
slower performance of an interpreted client rather than a
natively-compiled one.
dpc
response 32 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 15:32 UTC 1998

We are *losing* people to our conferences because they decline to partici-
pate in the telnet queue.  If people who only use us for e-mail weren't
on Grex, the queue wouldn't be needed.
jiffer
response 33 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 19:05 UTC 1998

I think that most people who use the telnet que have an internet connection,
so, they can always use backtalk if the que is too long.  It is what I use.
It is also (IMO) alot easier to use because the buttons and such are *there*
if they need help, want to change something or have questions.
mdw
response 34 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 21:01 UTC 1998

If the people who only want e-mail didn't have to wait through the
telnet queue, but could use a standard web browser instead, the # of
people using grex for e-mail would skyrocket, and eat up considerably
more computing and network resources on grex.  If our only means of
adjusting load on grex is to adjust the # of people who can telnet in at
once, that means we'd have to drastically reduce that number, which
would likely mean an even longer wait through a much slower and shorter
telnet queue, and a considerably more sluggish system.
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