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Grex > Agora35 > #20: Movies, movies, movies, movies, movies, movies, movies | |
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ea
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response 275 of 323:
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Dec 12 03:02 UTC 2000 |
Saw Unbreakable tonight. It was not worth the money, nor the time.
Little to no plot, and the character development is not great. Half the
film seemed to be a flashback sequence, but at times it was hard to tell
the flashbacks from real time. It also seemed to be shot out of
sequence, as in one scene Bruce Willis' hair grew from being none there,
to about a 5 day growth (he shaves his head) over the course of 3 shots.
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edina
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response 276 of 323:
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Dec 13 19:11 UTC 2000 |
Saw "Titus" this weekend upon the reviews it got here, plus one of my
attorneys truly loved it - AMAZING - DISTURBING - BRILLIANT - for lack of
better terms.
Also saw "Fever Pitch" with Colin Firth (another British Channel 4 movie) -
ladies, if you ever want to love a man or do love a man from Ireland or the
British Isles, this movie is a must see. It describes the love of
football(soccer) by one man for the team he follows to a tee. Brillian,
briliant, brilliant.
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jiffer
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response 277 of 323:
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Dec 13 21:37 UTC 2000 |
Colin First is the reason why I have A&E's Pride and Prejudice on video.
*drool*
And let us not forget the Feinnes brothers... *major drool*
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edina
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response 278 of 323:
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Dec 14 15:03 UTC 2000 |
Or Rupert Graves . . .or Hugh Laurie . . .or Gabirel Byrne . . .or Alan
Cumming. Oh, I could go on and on.
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jiffer
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response 279 of 323:
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Dec 14 16:00 UTC 2000 |
I can't spell! oh my gawd! I CAN'T SPELL!
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edina
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response 280 of 323:
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Dec 14 19:27 UTC 2000 |
That's ok - obviously neither can I.
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mooncat
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response 281 of 323:
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Dec 14 19:29 UTC 2000 |
<grins> We knew that... ;) (re: Jenn)
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jiffer
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response 282 of 323:
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Dec 14 20:19 UTC 2000 |
(but I like having my spelling panic attacks... keeps me insane..)
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ashke
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response 283 of 323:
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Dec 15 00:42 UTC 2000 |
I went and saw Dungeons and Dragons tonite. I had been built up to not like
it, since the critics panned it as one put it "the worst movie ever made"
(which I personally reserve for "Howard The Duck"). But in truth, I did like
it. I get the feeling none of the critics played D&D, or they don't want
anyone to know they did. As a former D&D player (who liked Human or Half-Elf
Thieves) I was pretty happy. They didn't sprout the classic line "You're in
a bar", and I think they got the dwarf and elf a bit...well...wrong, I did
like it. Most of the movie was something you could imagine a player making
a character do, and perhaps that's why the critics didn't like it. They
wanted a complete theatrical presentation, rather than what I found in an
extension of a gaming session brought to life.
But here is a beef...what is it with costume designers of sci-fi fantasy
movies? Do they have a thing with large bones? Or other spikey things on
outfits? I also object to powder blue lipstick. Just on principle. The
outfit of the "Empress" for her battle seemed less functional than decorative.
It would do more damage on her than any weapon. They also seemed to make the
assumption that "mages" were the aristocrats of society and the "commoners"
were anyone without magic. They can get away with this by creating a new
world, but on most worlds that I have played on or known of everyone is mixed
in, and if anything, mages were considered a hinderance, weak (at times), and
something to be ridiculed or feared. But like I said, each world is
different, and so they can get away with it.
I liked it. I would definatly see it again. Justin Whalin (from Tv's Lois
and Clark, he played Jimmy Olsen) made a good "hero" but Marlon Wayans made
a GREAT "thief" <giggles emphatically> oh yeah... and any movie with Richard
O'Brian in it (RifRaf from Rocky Horror Picture Show, who wrote the music to
it) is a winner for me!
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gelinas
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response 284 of 323:
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Dec 15 01:22 UTC 2000 |
I thought Mr O'Brian wrote the whole bloody thing, not just the music.
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richard
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response 285 of 323:
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Dec 15 04:10 UTC 2000 |
Dungeons and Dragons? isthat the movie that usa today and two of the
new york papers gave zero stars?
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hematite
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response 286 of 323:
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Dec 15 06:18 UTC 2000 |
(How could you forget to mention Jeremy Irons, Sunny?!! :)
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birdy
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response 287 of 323:
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Dec 15 06:36 UTC 2000 |
The point of fantasy is to be creative and NOT horribly accurate... =)
(I'm speaking about the costumes)
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ashke
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response 288 of 323:
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Dec 15 14:18 UTC 2000 |
Okay, in order: Gelinas: Yes he did write the whole bloody thing, and I do
like him a lot. Also liked him in Ever After. However, when it somes to RHPS
and RHS, I remember his singing a lot, and that's why I mentioned it.
Richard: Yes, they did. And Detriot and Phillidephia papters both gave it
one star. Hence my fear of going to see it, but I ended up enjoying it. Like
I said, they weren't gamers.
Wendy: SORRY! But I didn't want to mention all of them! But he was SO damn
cool! <giggles madly> ;)
Birdy-m'dear: I know. But I'm getting to the point where I don't know if
they're psycho, or just don't understand that "creative" and "good looking"
are not the same thing. Some of the costumes were right on, pretty and cool.
But a few of them....phew...
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gull
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response 289 of 323:
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Dec 15 15:33 UTC 2000 |
Re #283: If it's only enjoyable if you've played D&D, it sounds like I
should skip it.
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ashke
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response 290 of 323:
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Dec 15 15:43 UTC 2000 |
Well, if you go into it expecting to see something with major substance,
hardened plot...something along the lines of Gladiator, then you won't like
it. However, my motto is if the critics hate it, there is a good chance I'll
love it.
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mooncat
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response 291 of 323:
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Dec 15 16:19 UTC 2000 |
Hmm... maybe I'll find time to see that sometime this weekend...
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aruba
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response 292 of 323:
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Dec 15 19:26 UTC 2000 |
Gladiator had major substance and a "hardened" plot?
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mdw
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response 293 of 323:
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Dec 15 21:40 UTC 2000 |
There's a real problem with costuming especially in SF, but also fantasy
movies, and that is that human actors only come in certain shapes &
sizes. You can write all you want about intelligent 6 legged cats and 8
foot tall blue orcs and awful evil villains with one side of their face
chopped away in a freak sword accident.
When it comes time to actually put these characters into a movie, things
have to change. That 6 legged cat is, well, nearly impossible to do
right; a muppet just isn't going to have much sinuous grace as it leaps
and lopes and lears. Facial expressions are particularly complex:
people have a lot of hardwired programming to recognize faces on
hominoid shapes - so if you have a computer based character, and you
want it to seem "human like", you pretty much *have* to give it a face.
Ok, so maybe people in the future will give computers human shaped
avatars simply so they can interact in a human-like fashion; but what
about aliens, who may either have no facial expressions at all, or may
have faces that aren't hominoid, with expressions that *don't* map well
into human equivalents?
8 foot tall blue orcs present the usual problem of: a 7 foot tall actor
on platform shoes? Stilts? Muppets? Or all of the above?
The evil villain with one side of his face chewed off? Well, human
actors, for some reason, don't *want* one side of their face removed,
even temporarily. Also, their pronunciation really suffers when this is
done to them, insurance costs sky-rocket, and it's not clear if a movie
still qualifies for an R rating with such a hideous face. Also, there
is the facial expression problem, again. It's generally easier to *add*
things to a human actor than remove them. Horns, for this reason, are
really attractive. Various bulges, veins, and so forth also work. It's
possible to do hideous wounds, if care is taken to raise the surrounding
skin profile so that the wound doesn't look tacked on - but it's still
the case that wound is tacked on. The "bulging brain" thing is really
popular, because it's an easy solution for the problem of what to do
with all that hair on an actor's head. A lot of SF costuming is
carefully designed so that the face & eyes are basically left untouched.
That gives the actor a lot more ability to do the facial expression
thing.
This is all changing as computer generated graphics get better and
better. Someday, *someone* is going to do another Marilyn Monroe movie.
It's just bound to happen. Once we have the skills to do that, we'll be
able to do proper 6 legged cats, villains with one side of the face
missing, and 8 foot tall blue orcs. But we aren't (quite) there yet.
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mcnally
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response 294 of 323:
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Dec 15 21:47 UTC 2000 |
Yeah, I'm still trying to digest that one myself..
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mcnally
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response 295 of 323:
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Dec 16 00:09 UTC 2000 |
Marcus's #293 snuck in on me.. The concept I'm still trying to digest
is that "Gladiator" is a movie with major substance and a hardened plot..
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mdw
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response 296 of 323:
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Dec 16 00:53 UTC 2000 |
Glad it wasn't my response, but I take it your one-line response took a
*lot* of thinking and digesting to produce...
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mcnally
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response 297 of 323:
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Dec 16 01:33 UTC 2000 |
More likely you started responding well before I ever saw the response
I was replying to and finished just as I rattled off my deep insight..
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birdy
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response 298 of 323:
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Dec 16 03:21 UTC 2000 |
I agree on the "Gladiator" thing. Cool music, but the movie was a bit...
well... not exactly major substance and hardened plot.
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drew
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response 299 of 323:
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Dec 16 19:25 UTC 2000 |
8 foot tall blue orcs: Hire a standard 6 foot tall actor, put him in the
appropriate makeup, and film his scenes against a blue background. Then expand
those images 25% before merging with the rest of the scene.
Character with half his face sliced away with a sword: Hire someone who has
already had half his face creamed in an auto accident or other mundane mishap.
6 legged cat: Use ordinary 4 legged cats, stretch and add a couple of extra
legs with techniques similar to the blue orc scenes. Expand to whatever size
is required.
Facial expressions: If the alien doesn't have a human face, one is not
*supposed* to be able to see facial expression in them. Likewise, you're not
*supposed* to be able to see the face of an actor in a vacc suit. You wouldn't
see it in "real life", why should it be visible in the movie?
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