response 262 of 293:

Sep 16 22:43 UTC 2002

Already been squished.  It was just going to people as they logged in.

response 264 of 293:

Sep 17 02:12 UTC 2002

Cool.

response 266 of 293:

Sep 17 15:09 UTC 2002

        Mail from site that I was pretty sure was being blocked
has now started flowing again.
        Thank you for any attention given this.

response 268 of 293:

Sep 17 21:02 UTC 2002

(FWIW, I like Russ in person but his responses here always strike me as
pompous and insulting.)

response 272 of 293:

Sep 18 22:24 UTC 2002

As a refresher, here's the request I made in response 236:

>Will the Grex staff please:
>
>1.)    Unblock this site, and
>2.)    Inform the compilers of the spamblock list that their
>       information is out of date.

Somehow, Scott found this "attitude" insulting in #247:

>As a staffer I'm a bit insulted by Russ & Joe's attitude.  We act in good
>faith, and when somebody manages to wade through the piles of email to 'staff'
>the block will likely be removed.

(I tried to expedite matters because I knew that a bunch of Grexers
were being affected, and that traffic that people might find important
was being irretrievably lost.  Not knowing that Grex did not use an
outside blocklist, I thought that spreading this information to the
maintainer could help list members on other sites too.)  Then he added:

>However, if you're going to be a dick about this then so am I.  What system,
>and why is Russ desirous of hiding it?

This was a full day after I'd emailed staff (including Scott, I assume)
to tell them what site was being mis-blocked; my e-mail was almost a
verbatim repeat of response 236, with the site name included.  I hadn't
"hidden" a thing from anyone who mattered, he just hadn't looked.

Then he winds up with this:

>(FWIW, I like Russ in person but his responses here always strike me as
>pompous and insulting.)

To which I can only reply:  Scott, if you look for something hard enough
on the insistence that it HAS to exist, you're going to find it even if
it doesn't.  I'm not going to walk on eggshells because of it.

response 274 of 293:

Sep 19 02:49 UTC 2002

Frankly, I was puzzled at scott's ire in this thread, but I figured it 
would pass...

response 276 of 293:

Sep 19 13:44 UTC 2002

I understand entirely.  Given how hard staff works to keep things 
running, why should anyone be surprised when a staff person feels a 
little annoyed and on the defensive when users seem to insinuate that 
they aren't working fast enough, hard enough, or at all?

response 278 of 293:

Sep 19 15:48 UTC 2002

Yeah, the staffers bust hump.. I agree

On the flipside: folks have a clue who might be staff; can see some via !w;
and sorta' expect someone might be alive. Thus, while even the ones
"in-the-know" *KNOW* the staff maillist is prolly out of hand, subconciously
they are still going to expect some "signs of life" ;-)

(in fact, results seem to often magically occur when a bbs post is made -
but other days, an email is even faster - go figure).

response 280 of 293:

Sep 19 20:08 UTC 2002

Power problem.  Grex is now back up.

response 282 of 293:

Sep 20 02:29 UTC 2002

Staff DOES bust their butts to keep this thing running.  I appreciate
that.  But nobody appreciates being put down for something they did
not say, or failing to know something which requires insider status.
(Knowing who reads staff mail is one of those insider things.)

One thing that everyone knows is that Agora is read by more people
than the staff mailing list, so a posting here has the dual effect
of joggling elbows and notifying Grex users (who may also be affected,
but not know why or by what) that something is up.

response 284 of 293:

Sep 20 13:32 UTC 2002

        If the staff mailbox is so congested that it's difficult for
responsible staffers to be able to read and address issues, then that's a
system problem in and of itself, as well.

response 286 of 293:

Sep 22 13:08 UTC 2002

Grex is mighty speedy this morning :)