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sno
response 250 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 17:38 UTC 1999

I just experienced an annoying flaw in the idle time manager.  While
composing a response offline, I saw both the 15 minute idle warning
and the 5 minute boot off message simultaneously.  The warning would
have been nice since I was still present and accountable and could
have easily reset the counter with a keypress.
orinoco
response 251 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 18:14 UTC 1999

....ooop, and now it's dragging again.
gelinas
response 252 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 06:09 UTC 1999

} Respond, pass, forget, quit, or ? for more options? !df .
} Filesystem            kbytes    used   avail capacity  Mounted on
} /dev/sd1c            1944365 1749828     101   100%    /a
katie
response 253 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 09:45 UTC 1999

Yeah, for a while there I couldn't send mail because it was full and I
have no children. Whatever that means. Plus I couldn't enter responses
because of all the fullness.
spooked
response 254 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 11:20 UTC 1999

We are getting a new disk added, but STeve is busy with other committments
at the moment.  He will add it he assures staff when he's finished with his
other work (which hopefully won't be too long down the track).  Please be
patient until then (staff are well aware of the problem).
davel
response 255 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 14:11 UTC 1999

Somebody explain the facts of life to Katie ...
8-{)]
tpryan
response 256 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 18:16 UTC 1999

        I know I can do a 'ls -als|more' to review the files I have on the
system and remove some that where only meant to say a little while.  I 
know others here can do the same. But us who use bbs are less than 10%
of the system users.  Anyway to get the word out to the other users?
keesan
response 257 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 20:28 UTC 1999

just got no carrier immediately when I typed pine (twice), but mail
gave no problems.  From Kiwanis, where we pay for each phone call 10 c.
Why?
spooked
response 258 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 02:20 UTC 1999

RE: resp: 256 Just added a message to the motd.
cmcgee
response 259 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 03:48 UTC 1999

Ok, what is the limit I should have in my directory?  And is there any way
to compress mail folders?
mcnally
response 260 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 06:03 UTC 1999

  Others may have an opinion on how much disk space you "should" use;
  my only recommendation is "as little as you can, but no less.."

  As far as compressing mail folders -- most Unix mail programs won't
  read/write compressed folders directly, so you won't be able to use
  them while they're compressed, but for things you aren't actively
  using, you can compress them using the "gzip" command from within
  a Unix shell.  For example:

     grex%  gzip -v -9 old_mail.mbox
     old_mail.mbox:              50.4% -- replaced with old_mail.mbox.gz

  Which would compress the file to slightly less than half its original
  size (typically gzip compresses much better than 50% on text files,
  actually.  70-80% compression is pretty common.)

     grex%  gzip -d old_mail.mbox.gz

     or 

     grex%  gunzip old_mail.mbox.gz

  will restore your compressed file.
flem
response 261 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 06:11 UTC 1999

The disk space message looks pretty funny in my Backtalk window.  :)
gelinas
response 262 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 06:21 UTC 1999

Well "quota -v" {"!quota -v" at a bbs prompt} suggests 1 megabyte (1024
kilobytes).
spooked
response 263 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 06:40 UTC 1999

Yes, 1MB, though it's not dynamically enforced.

Thanks, Mike.  For naive and UNIX frigthened users, filebrowse writeen by
Valerie allows compression of files amongst its many options.
don
response 264 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 18:24 UTC 1999

Isn't there something you can set to have a file system-commpressed through
chattr?

Also, if I were to compress the files that I do use often and then just have
a shell program to uncompress, run the program, and then compress, would the
tradeoff between extra disk space and used computer cycles be any good?
don
response 265 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 20:40 UTC 1999

Another thing that could be done as a stopgap until we get a new disk mounted
is to graft some space from /tmp and add it to /a (if I recall, they are
partitions on the same disk; otherwize there's probably some not-as-easy way
to graft).
pfv
response 266 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 20:42 UTC 1999

        The entire point is moot, as long as the space is filled with
        the same data, for the same reasons, repeatedly.
mcnally
response 267 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 21:10 UTC 1999

  re #265:  unless it's going to be quite a while before anyone can
  attend to the new disk, it'd be better not to mess with the partition
  layout of currently-active partitions..  besides, it would almost
  certainly take less time to hook up the new drive, partition it,
  newfs, and mount it, than it would to back up /a, re-do /tmp and /a,
  etc..

  re #266:  you really just can't deal with the fact that staff isn't
  interested in ruling Grex with an iron fist, can you?  it seems like
  we've rehashed this over and over again:  YES, the freedom afforded
  to users here on Grex allows some abuses, and YES, I'm sure there's
  a copy or two of eggdrop source (or whatever your latest bogeyman
  happens to be..) taking up space that we could use right now.
  but for the last time, NO, a couple of useless copies of eggdrop are
  *not* the real problem here..
scott
response 268 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 21:56 UTC 1999

Interesting... it looks like this is one of those indirect y2k things.  Turns
out at least one of the rare staffers that knows how to add another disk to
Sun systems is too busy at his money job certifying that all systems are y2k
compliant to have enough free time to actually install a disk.
scott
response 269 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 00:16 UTC 1999

I just got disconnected when one of the cats kicked over the phone.  I demand
Grex staff do something about this!   ;)
mcnally
response 270 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 00:25 UTC 1999

  If STeve can't get to it before then, as an early Christmas present to
  Grex I'll volunteer to install a new disk once I've gotten past my current
  state of end-of-the-academic-term madness.. 

  Until I finish my final programming projects, though, I sadly can't spare
  any volunteer time.
spooked
response 271 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 01:11 UTC 1999

Thanks for your offer, Mike!

Thanks to STeve's wizardry, he got the disk usage down quite a bit, but still
not in a comfort zone.  Probably also assisted a little by people deleting
some personal files per motd.
cmcgee
response 272 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 16:41 UTC 1999

Special thank you to Grex staff (scott particularly) and users, and an
apology.  Scott took the time to tell me how to do some unix stuff so that
I now know how to download files from grex to my computer.  Other folks told
me how to compress and uncompress files.  The outcome was that I offloaded
_ALL_ my old mail folders to my own computer for long-term storage.  

But some of those were huge files, and I probably exceeded all good-manners
limits in doing so. So an apology to everyone who was slowed by my excessive
use of bandwith in service to cleaning up my excessive use of disk space.
don
response 273 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 22:31 UTC 1999

What do you mean by "STeve's wizardry"? What kind of things did he do to clear
up space?
spooked
response 274 of 292: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 23:37 UTC 1999

That's a good question. He never tells his secrets (=
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