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jep
response 25 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 04:32 UTC 2004

re resp:22: Valerie is a professional programmer, and her script 
reflects that.
tod
response 26 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 14:56 UTC 2004

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jep
response 27 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 17:30 UTC 2004

Uh huh.
janc
response 28 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 17:42 UTC 2004

Re: yapp.  Fairwitnesses in Yapp can be given in either of two formats.
 Login ID alone, as in Picospan, or login plus uid number.  The former
is for backward compatibility.  The latter option has existed in the
code since almost the first release.  It's possible that the cfadms on
M-Net don't know it are are entering fairwitnesses in the old format.

Valerie wrote her script in an evening.  She's a good programmer and
though I haven't looked at it, I'm sure it's pretty well done.  But
something could be written that would run much faster, even on the
stunningly slow Grex computer.  It would take much more than an evening
to really do it well.  I could do a pretty good job in an evening
because I have the backtalk code base to work off of.
naftee
response 29 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:38 UTC 2004

re 25 I've seen tonnes of scripts written by "professionals" which were TRUE
hacked-up jobs and not user friendly at all.
janc
response 30 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 01:26 UTC 2004

The world is well supplied with bad programmers.  Valerie is not one of
them.
ryan
response 31 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 02:27 UTC 2004

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naftee
response 32 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 05:55 UTC 2004

Guys, user-friendly is not the same as documenting your code.
Incidentally, valerie's script has practically no documentation!
Unless of course your idea of a good programmer is one who puts lots of
instructions but practically no comments.
gelinas
response 33 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 05:58 UTC 2004

"Good programmers debug code, not comments."
naftee
response 34 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 06:04 UTC 2004

valerie may be a good programmer, but it sure takes a kick in the ass to get
her going.
gull
response 35 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 16:07 UTC 2004

Comments are there for maintainability.  I don't think valerie plans on
maintaining this script.
naftee
response 36 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 16:20 UTC 2004

She should, since it's been her first project in several years.
janc
response 37 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 20:17 UTC 2004

Valerie writes programs every day.
naftee
response 38 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 23:27 UTC 2004

Yes sir, programs, but not "projects", as in the Borland sense.  
gelinas
response 39 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 03:37 UTC 2004

naftee, you've not idea what Valerie does for a living.  Stop displaying your
ignorance.
naftee
response 40 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 04:31 UTC 2004

If you're saying that what Valerie does for a living is completely unrelated
to what it says on her website, then I'd have to agree.  
remmers
response 41 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 12:23 UTC 2004

I have no idea what naftee is talking about.  In any case, I looked at
Valerie's scribble script.  It's a nice piece of Perl code, clear and
well-written, with about the right amount of comments.  If it's decided
to restore the divorce items sans jep's responses, the script will make
the process a whole lot easier than it otherwise would be.
remmers
response 42 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 12:36 UTC 2004

(Assuming that they're still available somewhere in raw Picospan format,
that is.  If not, restoration gets a little more complicated.)
jp2
response 43 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 13:46 UTC 2004

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remmers
response 44 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 18:13 UTC 2004

It's not the WHOLE idea, but you're probably correct.
tod
response 45 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 20:58 UTC 2004

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naftee
response 46 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 22:14 UTC 2004

Valerie actually makes PERL look not ugly.  But I'd say beautification is art,
not realy programming.
tod
response 47 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 23:47 UTC 2004

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naftee
response 48 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 14:29 UTC 2004

it's.
styles
response 49 of 58: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 01:15 UTC 2004

you're

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