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mary
response 25 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:21 UTC 2005

It's time to make a plan for emptying the Pumpkin.  I'll start
with a few suggestions and questions.

The next board meeting is set for February 18th.  The tentative plan
is to have the Pumpkin empty and hand the keys to the landlord by
March 1st.  Once we have handed over the keys we can cancel our
liability insurance and stop paying for electric.  DSL can be 
cancelled as soon as the phone lines are connected at Provide.

My primary suggestion here is that we simply set a deadline.  Without
setting a hard deadline, we're in trouble, as we'll simply find one excuse
after another to not be out.  I'd like to ask for staff support on this.  
Someone on staff needs to make a list of essential "must keep" items.  
These need to be tagged, logged, and then taken off-site, before, say,
February 18th.  Then we need to set a date when Eric and his truck are
free, Sindi is available, someone with a Pumpkin key is available, and we
need to get everything left in the Pumpkin into that truck and over to
Sindi's.

The one thing that shouldn't be moved, as is, are the disks.  They hold
data.  I suppose the disks could be mounted and laboriously wiped, but
that doesn't really sound feasible.  So I suggest any disks, not needed
for the new setup, be damaged beyond use and discarded.

The hard-ball part of this operation is that the deadline for the move
will mean that anything in the Pumpkin, on move day, will be destroyed
or moved to Sindi's.

Eric and Sindi, do you have the afternoon of February 26th free? 
That's a Saturday and we could meet around 2:00, after debrief.
We may even be able to recruit a few helpers at lunch.

Anyhow, we need to have a plan.  How does this one sound?
Do we have a staff member willing to do the inventory and mark
the essentials?  A log could be kept so that when something Grex
needs is moved to a foster home, that item and it's location could
be documented.  Yeah, I know, not as easy as having one big pit of
a storage place, but those days are over for Grex.  We can't afford
the rent.

So, is this doable?  

keesan
response 26 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:38 UTC 2005

Jim and I have no plans for any Saturdays or Sundays this year.
Or evenings or even afternoons.  He is swimming until 8:15 am some mornings
and is busy Wed. morning with a class.
I am sometimes busy during the day, not predictable in advance, but free
evenings.
other
response 27 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 17:38 UTC 2005

That date looks ok for me.  And if Scott isn't back from Norway by then,
I trust I won't have to fight anyone for the old disks, which I will
happily destroy in the process of extracting the drive magnets.  I can
even weld the platters into a stack and make a nice paperweight or
something.
scott
response 28 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 21:05 UTC 2005

You're welcome to the magnets, Eric.  I no longer have a metal house.
keesan
response 29 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 04:54 UTC 2005

Are these scsi disks?  I have never seen inside one.  Regular hard drive
magnets are too powerful to use easily on a refrigerator.
twenex
response 30 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 10:02 UTC 2005

Internally, scuzzy disks probably look like I Do it Eventually disks to the
layman. The fact that they are high-end might mean they have, on average, more
platters (actual disks) inside than the average IDE.
scott
response 31 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 11:06 UTC 2005

Those old disks are going to bbe 5-1/4" size, and some will be full-height.
So they'll have big magnets, just to move the bigger head arm around fast
enough.
janc
response 32 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 17:09 UTC 2005

Nearly everything in the pumpkin has a little sticker on it, with a number.
These numbers are all in the Grex inventory database that Mark Conger set up.
This database is publicly accessible on Grex.

    http://www.grex.org/~invent/index.cgi

I think we should hold onto the old Sun computer for a bit longer at least.
I think DanG said he could host it at his house for a bit.  I'm not sure it
even needs to be turned on.  I wouldn't destroy any of it's disks yet.

All Sun 3 stuff and Sun 4/260 stuff can go.  Really, I can't think of much
of anything in there I care about.  Some of it is a same to throw away.  I
wonder if you could E-bay it.  Do we have anyone who likes selling stuff on
E-Bay?
tod
response 33 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 17:35 UTC 2005

If its no cost to store it then try to eBay or craigslist it.  I think it
makes more sense to donate it to some computer enthusiasts, though.  Putting
it on eBay and ensuring its delivery is quite an undertaking.
jep
response 34 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 17:52 UTC 2005

If the intention is to give it away, maybe www.freecycle.org is the way 
to go.  Or locally, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/annarborfreecycle.
keesan
response 35 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 22:46 UTC 2005

Anyone want to take the time to post this stuff at freecycle?
We can store it on the porch until spring.
cross
response 36 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 04:43 UTC 2005

I think we should grab tar's of all the filesystems on groupie and
put them on the IDE disk before we lose connectivity to the old Sun.
janc
response 37 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 15:55 UTC 2005

The DSL into the pumpkin sticks so badly, that it could be argued that we have
already lost connectivity to the old Sun.
cross
response 38 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 19:46 UTC 2005

We can still walk tapes or something back and forth, right?
mary
response 39 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 23:52 UTC 2005

Okay, moving weekend is upon us.  This Saturday, 2:00, anyone who would
like to help out is enthusiastically encouraged to do so.  Meet in the
parking lot at 416 West Huron.  Eric will be there with his truck, Sindi
has space on her porch.  We're going to mail this project in one
afternoon.

Scanning this item it seems that Jan wants his Mac, Joe wants the shelves,
Eric wants old disk drives (to be destroyed), the Sun 4 will be going to
dang's, maybe, and everything else is up for grabs.  That includes a big,
vintage, Property Disposition desk and unmatched chair, both radiating
geek aura.  It could be yours.  Show up and cart it away, aura and all.  
Unless someone staffish is there to say something should be saved and
sold, all contents will simply be given away.  Mostly, it needs to be
gone.  Those who show to help should bring an empty box or two and be
prepared to see the Pumpkin's paint job.  It ain't called the Pumpkin for
'nuthin.

So come on down.  Have fun.  Work.  Be part of Grex history.

mary
response 40 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 23:53 UTC 2005

That should be NAIL THIS PROJECT.  Just in case you wondered.
cross
response 41 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 00:53 UTC 2005

Well, in a sense, it is sort of moving grex to another place.  Isn't
that what the mail does?  When they don't lose things, that is?
slynne
response 42 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 00:57 UTC 2005

I think we'll have a lot of fun. Naturally, I will be there. I'll see if
I can scare up a couple of boxes. 
munkey
response 43 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 01:02 UTC 2005

Bye Pumpkin!
scholar
response 44 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 01:32 UTC 2005

Re. 41:  Aren't they still moving things to another place, even if they lose
them (either the places, themselves, or the mail itself?)?

Re. 40:  I wasn't, but thanks for the correction.

Re. 42:  Good luck.

Re. 43:  Bye munkey!
naftee
response 45 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 02:24 UTC 2005

Bye scholar!
keesan
response 46 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 02:48 UTC 2005

I don't know if the desk will even fit on my porch - hope someone wants it,
and the chair.  
masodo
response 47 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 19:06 UTC 2005

Good Luck Fella's  

Lift w/yer knees!

Bye Punk'n - I hardly knew ye (except for the pixs)
naftee
response 48 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 00:36 UTC 2005

likcs ?  did u lick 'er ?
slynne
response 49 of 99: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 18:11 UTC 2005

Ok, I am getting ready to leave to go to the pumpkin. I am sure it will
be lots of fun. I hope lots of other people show up too :)
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