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gelinas
response 25 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 01:10 UTC 2004

The effort required to keep retroGrex going is likely to be effort that
would not be available for the new machine, anyway.

For instance, it may require an additional cfadm.  However, if the
administration of the new conferences is sufficiently differnt, as I
expect to it be, we'll need a new cfadm any way.

I've never looked closely at NNTP, but it is quite a bit more than just
storing each bit of a text in a separate file.  After all, the "TP"
stands for "transfer protocol;" if you aren't transferring files, you
don't need NNTP.

If you start reworking clients to present the "look and feel" of picospan,
or any other conferencing system, you will rapidly lose any advantage of
starting with an existing client.
jp2
response 26 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 01:58 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 27 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 02:23 UTC 2004

How so?   The machine will still be open to telnet, so the clients will 
still be running on grex, as will the server.
jp2
response 28 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 14:41 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 29 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 14:58 UTC 2004

Except the limitation of the hardware owned.
naftee
response 30 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 15:32 UTC 2004

re 26 What the hell is "two- or three-tier" architecture ?
polygon
response 31 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 16:15 UTC 2004

Jan has convinced me.  The more I think about it, the more I like the
idea of RetroGrex.  It's easy, simple, creative, and unique, all at the
same time.
twenex
response 32 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 17:20 UTC 2004

Yep.
jp2
response 33 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 17:42 UTC 2004

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tod
response 34 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 17:49 UTC 2004

re #31
I'll make the t-shirts
albaugh
response 35 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 17:55 UTC 2004

"RetroGrex" is a misnomer.  You only use "retro" when you're creating
something new to deliberately look like something old.  In this case it's just
current-grex-on-life-support, and that ain't "retro" to me.
janc
response 36 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 18:06 UTC 2004

I called it "retroGrex" because it slips nicely off the tongue.  How
retro it would be depends on your point of view.  Lots of people today
would find a forum where you turn off http and make it accessible only
via telnet pretty darn retro.  I'd be happy to entertain suggests for
better names.
other
response 37 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 18:13 UTC 2004

Well, in the spirit of current trends in nomenclature such as 
prefacing every name with i- or e-, I'd like to propose the name 

   oGrex

Short for old-Grex, but swifter off the tongue, and emcompassing the  
word ogre, which is vaguely applicable to the monstrous old hardware 
when compared to the sleek, small, new system.  Ok, so that's a bit 
of a stretch.
albaugh
response 38 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 18:16 UTC 2004

Also O for obsolete, ontiquated, on-life-support, etc.  :-)
marcvh
response 39 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 18:20 UTC 2004

"Grex Classic"
"Legacy Grex"
"This is your father's Oldsmobile."
naftee
response 40 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 5 06:40 UTC 2004

YE OLDE GREXE
tod
response 41 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 5 15:51 UTC 2004

Veggie Grex
tsty
response 42 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 8 04:35 UTC 2004

<<janc is not a veggie>>
  
i'm pretty much *with* janc on this one - the name might need tweaking
but the concept is quite sound.
  
btw, would there be a commonality between b0xen for agora &  co-op?
  
.... conference-copy?
tod
response 43 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 9 16:46 UTC 2004

re #42
grex on life support = veggie grex
ryan
response 44 of 67: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 03:59 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 45 of 67: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 06:39 UTC 2004

NB: It looks like it will cost us $30/month to keep current-Grex up and
online.
albaugh
response 46 of 67: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 19:31 UTC 2004

If certain people want to fund that dubious "luxury", they're welcome to raise
the additional funds.  I don't think that the grex general fund should be used
to keep current grex on life support.
tod
response 47 of 67: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 20:02 UTC 2004

Will the membership be given a chance to beta test NextGrex before oldGrex
goes offline?
janc
response 48 of 67: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 20:48 UTC 2004

Why $30/month?
janc
response 49 of 67: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 20:53 UTC 2004

I see litle advantage in letting everyone on before openning the system.
I'd have to delete all their test accounts before moving their real accounts
over.  I'll let anyone have access whom I trust will report security problems
to me rather than exploiting them.  Very few of the people who I asked to do
testing did anything.

I think what's actually going to happen is that we'll change over with
rather inadequate testing.  Some problems will occur, and we'll fix them.
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