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glenda
response 25 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 03:03 UTC 2003

Really.  STeve even asks my permission to read my mail or files when I tell
him I am having a problem with them.  And we share everything (except
passwords).
dah
response 26 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 05:58 UTC 2003

O please, valerie.  You know for a FACT that you gave the polytarp account
to staff.  You said you did.  That means, of course, you've also given them
permission to read various private files; and, as you said, they don't need
the password to do that.  This is a chilling and BLATANT violation of privacy.
i
response 27 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 14:03 UTC 2003

I can't imagine any grex staffer either thinking that the symbolic "giving"
of polytarp's account to staff gave them (staff) any more rights to the
account's contents *or* that any grex staffer has nothing more important or
interesting to do than look through polytarp's account.

Is there anything so important/interesting there (address of Saddam's secret
hideout, text of the next Harry Potter book, Fermat's original proof of his
"last theorem", etc.) that we should bother going to look?
davel
response 28 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 14:23 UTC 2003

Re #22: I find the first paragraph of #17 even less credible, somehow.
cross
response 29 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 14:39 UTC 2003

Regarding #26; Wow, it's like arguing with a brick wall, isn't it?
russ
response 30 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 16:00 UTC 2003

This soap opera just keeps getting better!  Or is it a cartoon,
with poly in his various guises as e.g. the coyote?
dah
response 31 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 18:37 UTC 2003

O please, Walt.  You know as well as I do that Grex's staff is stalking me.
Now they've allowed themselves to use my mail address, as well as reading my
private files and E-mail.  It's absurd.
davel
response 32 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 22:16 UTC 2003

"Absurd" is exactly the correct word, indeed.
dah
response 33 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 1 23:54 UTC 2003

It's a blatant privacy violation, and the fact that the Grex users can't see
that is a horrible reflection, etc.
russ
response 34 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 01:08 UTC 2003

I know, it's plot-element trials for "Dumb and Dumber-er-er"!
dah
response 35 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 01:49 UTC 2003

That was an just an awful sentence, Russ.
cross
response 36 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 02:42 UTC 2003

Why is it a privacy violation?  Staff could have looked at polytarp's
`private' files at anytime *if staff had wanted to*.  Staff didn't want
to, and doesn't now; so far as I'm aware, no one's gone looking at
polytarp's files.  So what, exactly, is the privacy violation?
dah
response 37 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 02:52 UTC 2003

Because now staff thinks it owns the files and therefore it's not like they
don't equally think there's nothing unethical about looking at them and
stalking me.
scg
response 38 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 03:34 UTC 2003

Polytarp, one day when you're older, you may come to the understanding taht
constantly attempting to annoy some group of people will likely cause them
to do things to you that you'd rather they not do.  In some cases (not going
out of their way to do things for you) it will be an entirely reasonable
response.  In other cases, the responses may well turn out to be things that
people shouldn't do no matter what the reason, but which still wouldn't have
been done to you had you not provoked them.

Frankly, I think the staff has been remarkably restrained in dealing with you.
dah
response 39 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 04:01 UTC 2003

A paragraphe is like an hamburger.  Where's your bun?
scott
response 40 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 15:22 UTC 2003

Staff has been remarkably restrained in dealing with an obvious troll.  I
don't see any justification in dah/polytarp's complaints.  He's just looking
for attention.
cross
response 41 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 16:18 UTC 2003

And we're playing right into his plans to get more attention.
dah
response 42 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 00:27 UTC 2003

I didn't want any attention at all.  I just didn't want spam and want my
account back or the root password or any two.
nbebout
response 43 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 02:25 UTC 2003

I guess i don't really have any right to say anything as I am not a member,
but I agree with what the staff has done.  If polytarp forwards his email to
staff@, then he deserves to be locked out of his account.  I would not like
it too much if someone started forwarding all their email to m.
dah
response 44 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 02:51 UTC 2003

You don't have any right to say anything because you're a fucking moron.
other
response 45 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 03:59 UTC 2003

re #44:  That doesn't stop you...
janc
response 46 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 05:01 UTC 2003

Re #43: Non-members are 100% welcome to comment on anything in this
conference.  How much attention I pay to a person's opinions has nothing
to do with there membership status.  You are what you say, not what you
pay.

The conditions under which the the staff may look at a user's files are
described at http://www.grex.org/staffnote/privacy.html.  In this
instance, we had cause to inspect and change polytarp's .forward file,
but not anything else.

Personally, I can't say following those guidelines is any particular
challenge.  I haven't a hint of interest looking at polytarp's files.
valerie
response 47 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 05:33 UTC 2003

This response has been erased.

jaklumen
response 48 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 05:35 UTC 2003

resp:40 hoo, am I slow on the uptake... new guise, eh?  A troll all 
the same.
dah
response 49 of 110: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 00:34 UTC 2003

Re. 47: I promise to not forward all of my mail to staff again, even though
my mail will surely continue to contain spam.

Thanks, popcorn!
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